Give big ships a support role

[EisenSeele]

Correct me, if I'm wrong, but haven't it always been an ultimate goal for discovery?

With all variety of ship classes, fighters and bombers are the most versatelite, most efficent, most deadly and most surviveable (I mean in massive combat, where big ships die very fast) ships.

[Citation needed]

Since most devs in charge of ship balance are fighter purists, I suggest we avoid trying to get any changes done to capital ships just so that nobody gives them a reason to further nerf them ''because the community wanted changes done''.

They are more or less playable now. Let's try and keep them that way, shall we?

If the devs are lacking in enthusiasm for adding anything to non-fighter ships, then the correct course of action is to add devs that will do something about non-fighter ships.

Either that, or we should just make it official that non-snub flying players should just stop wasting their time on hoping that things will get better - call it what you want now, but things are very broken.

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[EisenSeele]

... Have docking modules serve an actual purpose...

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=121752

Carriers are less than a fraction of all non-fighter combat ships - and it still doesn't address the problem of fighters being broken against everything else.

It's a nice start, but it's not even close to what DM's should be able to do.

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[sindroms]

That is not as easy as it sounds.
Caps have always been a rather contrivertial subject for Disco and nobody really wants to poke at them lest the whole thing breaks down.

While we have the fact that snubs and caps can interact pvp-wise, this will remain to be an issue.
From one side you do not want to make ships worth billions of credits worthless.
From the other side, you do not want to make it seem that the people with the biggest wallet win.

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[Vogel]

It's not really a compliment when it's pity...

... This deja vu is killing me. It's like PTSD.

[EisenSeele]

That is not as easy as it sounds.
Caps have always been a rather contrivertial subject for Disco and nobody really wants to poke at them lest the whole thing breaks down.

While we have the fact that snubs and caps can interact pvp-wise, this will remain to be an issue.
From one side you do not want to make ships worth billions of credits worthless.
From the other side, you do not want to make it seem that the people with the biggest wallet win.

Pvp wise, removing snub cruise does little or nothing to change the actual combat balance between snubs and caps. I'm not calling for the change of damage values or anything else - snubgank will always be broken because it's just how the engine works.

The change I'm calling for is easy to impliment, just as easy to reverse, and would be a good start to addressing a very large issue with the inherent gap between snubs and non snubs.

It's not really a compliment when it's pity...

... This deja vu is killing me. It's like PTSD.

8| Well, if there's no reason to expect that there will be any change to non-snub ship users being alienated, there's always cutting the loss and moving on.

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[Vogel]

The change I'm calling for is easy to impliment...

8| Well, if there's no reason to expect that there will be any change to non-snub ship users being alienated, there's always cutting the loss and moving on.

BDM| Economic Warfare Division

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[Alley]

stop with the gifs it's triggering my buffer systems

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Alley was right.

[SnakThree]

stop with the gifs it's triggering my buffer systems

I hear that buffer systems are being removed, so hold on tight!

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[Omicron]

Good luck trying to kill disco, BDM.

Your idea would not only completely destroy factions with no access to capital ships/carriers but also phaze into obscurity every system with no lanes present. Are you sincerely expecting it is a good idea to inhibit currently the only good way to stir up activity by actually flying around? Unless you somehow enjoy 5 hours flight time to Liberty because nobody of you has carrier at hand, I cant find you actually serious about this.

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[Mímir]

Yay, it's gonna be even more fun going from Alpha to Gamma in a Sabre without cruise.

Terrible, terrible idea.

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