I'm sorry, it is battlecruisers I am specifically referring to.
But I don't think its an april fools joke to think that with the current population, bombers should be able to at least inflict damage on a battlecruiser. A slow rate of damage perhaps, with a certain fraction of hits per non hits, that should certainly be higher than 0.
Otherwise, Novas are the only serious long range weapon able to be used on capital vessels...and I do have an asuras, and always use a snac/torp combo on all the bombers I've ever used. Its not like I expected to take him out quick and easy, but I still think flaks create a situation where if a bomber does encounter a large capital vessel, there's barely a way to scratch them, let alone defeat them. And only using snac/asuras combo means moving in to ranges like 800-600 m, with turret zoom, its barely any contest. 'Realistically' a bomber should be able to drop torpedoes from longer range (as is with novas), and not have them all completely negated. Shooting them down is one thing, but easy deflection is another. So, considering making them limited to ammo would give some chance shifting the tide at some point!
(03-19-2018, 07:55 PM)Thunderer Wrote: Cruisers don't have flaks. Battlecruisers do. You can hit the latter with a snac without aiming, unless you're 50 years old and your eyes are damaged due to eating a lot of Nutella while having diabetes.
Also, bombers are not supposed to 1 v 1 any ship. You need -at least- 2 for a battlecruiser.
With all due respect Thunderer, with turret zoom, you go within 1000 m of any capital ship and you're pretty much done for, maybe you land a few hits, but enough to really do anything? Not really.
And if bombers cant 1v1 anything, what the heck happened to disco? I agree that statement is true, by force of the game mechanics, but that is definitely not how it should be. How often do people fly only when they can get numbers of 2-3? I think they should be a little bit more of a threat than that of a fly. At this point people seem reluctant to say even 2 bombers can take down a BC. TBH, at that point the fun starts draining from the fight as the larger ship knows they're done for with 2 or more opponents, and its gets almost too easy to gank a cap. 1 v 1 in these cases is enjoyable, but neither side gets much done after too long, or its over too quick. So since they are limited to BCs and up, ammo limitations doesn't seem too crazy to me.
(03-19-2018, 08:55 PM)Titan* Wrote: you need like 3-4 skilled bomber to take out skilled cruiser but still that might not work, one mistake is enough it is also up to Cruiser.
Battlecruiser is easier to kill compared to Cruiser. It is large and slow also nova torps can hit them very often but they have flaks. Antimatter cannon more useful compared to Nova Torpedo.
Nova torpedo is good if target is distracted
Just don't even try to duel capital ship in fighter or bomber, thats not going to work. If battleship or battlecruiser doesn't have Flak, you might able to destroy them with just Nova Torpedoes but there is also chance to run out of ammo before killing them.
(03-19-2018, 09:13 PM)TheUnforgiven Wrote: And if bombers cant 1v1 anything
Bombers are group fighting ships, they are mostly useful in Fleet Fights. Best combination is 2 or 3 Bomber with a Cruiser support, with a good coordination you can take out large fleet if they are not coordinated.
Fighters and Bomber groups are very deadly too, I think nothing can stop a snubswarm
(03-19-2018, 09:13 PM)TheUnforgiven Wrote: With all due respect Thunderer, with turret zoom, you go within 1000 m of any capital ship and you're pretty much done for, maybe you land a few hits, but enough to really do anything? Not really.
Me & @Ayasato Mei managed to get a battlecruiser that had a cap 8 down to a about half health without using regens. It's definitely possible to kill one with two people, and in no world should a single snub be able to solo a cap, imo. (Excluding gunboats, good snub pilots can do that)
To clarify: we were in snac bombers - people shouldn't be using torpedoes to take down caps.
(03-19-2018, 07:55 PM)Thunderer Wrote: Also, bombers are not supposed to 1 v 1 any ship.
I shoot down transports 1v1 quite regularly with a bomber. Battletransports and liners are tough one for sure, but others are quite easy. But generally yes, bombers are meant to be used as a support or in a swarm, not a 1v1 main killing force.
There is no problem with single bomber being unable to take down battlecruiser in my opinion. If the ship worth of less than 50 million credits with all equipment including armor can take out ship worth of more than a billion credits, what´s the point of making money and buying the latter again?
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