(09-01-2018, 06:10 PM)The Order (Legacy of Orillion) Wrote: They take steps to minimize human casualties, believing that protecting humanity should not coincide with losing humanity in the process.
The first thing Orillion does in the SP is blow up a ship filled 99% with innocent Rheinlanders (the Donau).
So maybe call it "Boyscouts of Sirius" instead of "Legacy or Orillion", if those are your goals?
Wasn't the ship full of infected? I'd presume so. Either way, it was never clarified (to my knowledge).
The Order suspected that Admiral Schulzski was sent to infect President Jacobi. That doesn't require more than 1 infected person (since in Alaska only the Chancellor carried an incubus, it's unlikely the Donau had more).
That may be the case, but I'd suspect a cruiser warship to have numerous higher-ranking officers who would probably also be infected. I don't see it unreasonable that the majority of the crew was infected/under the influence of nomad beings etc
The majority of the crew follows orders and has no idea what the higher-ups are up to. Unless the infected leaders expose their tentacles everywhere they go.
(09-02-2018, 12:52 AM)Shelco Wrote: I thoroughly disagree with the concept of having another official Order faction with little to no difference other than claiming itself to be the "true" Order. That's not what the server needs, and providing nice interactions, imo, shouldn't be the main concern about getting a faction official. And don't you have your Battlegroup Scarabeus running simultaneously, even with pretty much the same appearance, in terms of RP, than this faction?
Scarabaeus is a small group comprised of a very small amount of people. It opposes the Order, whereas this attempts to rebuild the Order to the way it was represented in the campaign. A seclusive group working with the people in the houses with the goal of removing the Nomads as a danger to Sirius. As it stands right now, I see nothing wrong with taking a crack at officialdom while we're still doing things. If anything, it will be a period of judgement where our actions will be evaluated, like any OFC request period is.
You don't have to like the faction. No one does, but we're aiming to take a fresh spin on what has been, for the last few years, considered a full-frontal terrorist faction in the way of focusing on what the Order was founded for: The removal of the Nomads.
(09-02-2018, 01:06 AM)Karlotta Wrote: The first thing Orillion does in the SP is blow up a ship filled 99% with innocent Rheinlanders (the Donau).
So maybe call it "Boyscouts of Sirius" instead of "Legacy or Orillion", if those are your goals?
The Order in the SP campaign blowing up the Donau showed to Sirius the true dangers of the Nomads, and the dedication (however you wish to claim it's legitimacy) of the Order to protecting the Houses from the Nomads. While yes, Schultzky may have been the only one infected aboard, maybe not, it does not deter from the fact that the faction itself has roots in the preservation of Humanity as a whole. Since the Nomad War, and the proof of Nomads existing got out, the Order did gain legitimacy, even if they're still a terrorist group to most organizations. Orillion started that.
The faction's goal is to build off that legacy and carry on with the mission as it was during the campaign.
just did some reading, it's probably reasonable to assume Admiral Schulzski was the only incubus on the ship, however; " manipulate or even control humans, either with telepathy or more direct methods" and "Infestation covers everything from initial implantation to the manifestation of 'telekinetic' abilities."
I'd say yeah there may have only been a few incubi on the ship, but the rest could have been infested OR under the influence of telepathy.
I guess the Donau was a very unfortunate case where the Order was forced to destroy the ship, as all other solutions were out of their timeframe / too improbable...
(09-02-2018, 12:52 AM)Shelco Wrote: I thoroughly disagree with the concept of having another official Order faction with little to no difference other than claiming itself to be the "true" Order. That's not what the server needs, and providing nice interactions, imo, shouldn't be the main concern about getting a faction official.
I'm not entirely certain but isn't the lifeblood of the server good interactions between multiple groups of people?
Besides, there was a time where we had only one official faction per NPC faction, and that's long gone. I'm not too sharp on why the 3rd and 5th fleets exist for the Liberty navy, but I'd have to say it's very difficult to differentiate one Navy fleet from the other. If I'd have to take a guess as to why |O| exists, it's because its current members aren't in agreement with the direction of the current official faction. Just like how there's multiple Outcast, Corsair, and Liberty Navy factions, some official and some attempting officialdom. Different objectives, different ways of running their faction, different preferences.
You probably shouldn't be speaking for the entire server, considering.
Quote:And don't you have your Battlegroup Scarabeus running simultaneously, even with pretty much the same appearance, in terms of RP, than this faction?
It's my understanding Scarabeus is a very small, very nearly full blown terrorist organization which will shoot first, shoot second, and then question the remains of someone that might have been in the same room as a nomad agent. Scarabeus is a group not seeking officialdom as well as everything within Scarabeus existing as specifically SRP'd content. |O| wants to form proper diplomacy with house factions and work alongside them with the nomad threat, not against them.
I have said this already friends... Battlegroup Scarabaeus does not have anything to do with |O|- Its literally only me and Spectre... we do stuff on that to break the norm. We are dedicated to |O|-. Some of you may not like the idea of a new order faction and to be honest (its always the same 2-3 people who always have something negative to say) But there are A LOT of people wanting this to succeed... We have 10 members and we will hopefully keep growing and become a great faction people would want to interact with. We have a lot of plans coming up in the future so stay tuned!
As always thank you for the feedback!
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(09-02-2018, 12:52 AM)Shelco Wrote: I thoroughly disagree with the concept of having another official Order faction with little to no difference other than claiming itself to be the "true" Order. That's not what the server needs, and providing nice interactions, imo, shouldn't be the main concern about getting a faction official. And don't you have your Battlegroup Scarabeus running simultaneously, even with pretty much the same appearance, in terms of RP, than this faction?
We have [LN] and 5th|, half a dozen LSF factions, HF and H|, all of which are similar enough in intent and goals... and a second Order faction that believes the Overwatch is doing Order things wrong is the straw that breaks the camels back? Nah. This is the good stuff. And I gotta agree with Saro on the focus on repeated positive interaction being kind of the lifeblood of the game.
I'm all for this as long as they can keep the activity up and interact with Order| in interesting ways.
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