' Wrote:you could go the gents way and call a truce. But if you are in a gb and a single fighter is pestering you, just ignore it and go about your business.
I personally don't get any lulz from popping single fighters, unless they belong to a corp that has a massive bounty on me.
Nothing but luv USI:P
I do not fly anything bigger than a bomber:nono:
So perhaps Im a bit one-sided here, but Im talkin about fighters being engaged by cap ships.
' Wrote:you could go the gents way and call a truce.
That's the way forward. Neither can win, so go about your separate ways. Done that a few times myself. Of course, this depends on the other involved not being a total twat and insisting that you leave the system 'cos you "fled".
Shield Camping. It's possible in nearly any ship, has been going on since the dawn of time. It's not against the rules or anything, if you're fed up with it take your fun elsewhere, even if you have to change system. If you're doing it, shame on you D:
But seriously.. if someone's doing that to you it's likely they have back-up on the way and you should high-tail it out of there before it's too late.
' Wrote:I encoutered a few situations like this. And I dont know how I whould react to them. Checked the rules search, well didnt manged to find this. So:
Lets say a VHF gets engaged by a gunboat. The gunboat pilot isnt a complete begginer and you can't stand a agianst him. Instead you trust about 1500 m and stick around in that range. VHF doesnt run from scanner range?.. so it isnt concidered as fleeing. Well gunboat can't kill him either. Chases a few minutes gets bored. VHF flies around in 1500m sometimes closing to give a few shoots to keep the "fight" and trusts away agian... eventually gunboat gets bored and disengages.
Does 4 hour rule apply here?
If yes, then to who?
hi Silverleaf, Read the rules it will be more clear to you.. Oh sorry Where did it run.. sounded like silver for a second.
There you go let me make it simple for you.. If the fight took place in C,d-4,5 and you moved 6k from where the fight took place and the person moved 10k he lost you won he goes you stay. but did you ever consider to.. i dont know... try to reach an agreement? You know like.. "you can stay in the system.. i dont mind dude.. have a nice day and enjoy yourself"
I also think you should talk things out with the opponent. If it's a twat and is really out on having you 'dead' then so be it, go sit in another system.
' Wrote:hi Silverleaf, Read the rules it will be more clear to you.. Oh sorry Where did it run.. sounded like silver for a second.
There you go let me make it simple for you.. If the fight took place in C,d-4,5 and you moved 6k from where the fight took place and the person moved 10k he lost you won he goes you stay. but did you ever consider to.. i dont know... try to reach an agreement? You know like.. "you can stay in the system.. i dont mind dude.. have a nice day and enjoy yourself"
How long you will act a twit to me? Do you atleast understood the point, instead of reading 1 sentence and thinking "Oh I find another oppurinity to flame this guy and prove my childishness"
What you answered is not the issue I stated. If you dont have what to say about, perhaps do not write. Deal?
No Nighthwak, there is a diffrent between stupidity and bravery, im not going to joust gunship in a VHF. Besides the problem accures then capital engages a fighter.
I also think you should talk things out with the opponent. If it's a twat and is really out on having you 'dead' then so be it, go sit in another system.
Gunboat versus VHF is unfair anyway.
how about a dread vs a Bomber and a light fighter?
' Wrote:How long you will act a twit to me? Do you atleast understood the point, instead of reading 1 sentence and thinking "Oh I find another oppurinity to flame this guy and prove my childishness"
What you answered is not the issue I stated. If you dont have what to say about, perhaps do not write. Deal?
No Nighthwak, there is a diffrent between stupidity and bravery, im not going to joust gunship in a VHF. Besides the problem accures then capital engages a fighter.
Ok i am just amazed with you.. and did you really bother reading what nighthawk(ashes) said? Its like it passes by you.
and yes i did answer your question.. who ever moves 10k form the fight fled.. That was the question and there you have the answer.. its covered by the rules.. nothing to be guessing about. You should read the rules more carefully.
And if you do not like my answers towards you.. you should do what i did.. add me to ignore.. it was funny.. i added you to ignore quite a while ago.. and every time i would see something like "You choose to ignore this person" made me giggle every time
As I stated its about fights in which no-one can win. The same may accure about BS versus bomber and lf.
No-one won. No-one lost. And in the rules there is mentioned about the side which losses the fight cant show up for four hours. But in same cases, mostly like these ones, no-one wins no-one looses. Whats then?
Even if gunship got bored and flown away, fighter didn't won anything. It survived, but didn't won. Well alirght we can concider this liek fighter defended himself.
Alright what if fighter jumps on gunboat himself? perhaps with his wingmate, who gets blown-up, and the rest of scenario goes in that "no-one can hit no-one" way. Gunship gets bored and hits the road. But in here actually fighter lost the battle. But agian. Gunship went out of scanner range, and he is considering fleeing, even if it defended himself (meaning he won). 4 hours accures to the wrong side here, doesnt looks like it?
Quite a tricky thing actually, and its hard to discribe it well in my limited english. Sorry for that.
And weedalot im talking about the tricky part, that not always the one who goes out of scanner range by boredom looses a fight as a fight. Not by the canon rules.
<< activating cruisse engines concidered fleeing and that means he/she lost the fight >> (or something like that) But ehre is the problem. The gunship didn't lost the fight in such scenario. Neither it was forced to flee as only option to survive.
keep in mind that this is a RP server - and i m surprised it hasn t been mentioned yet.
this server is not named "rules discovery" but "discovery RP".
now - what happens when a small and agile fighter is confronted by a battleship ( the most extreme case ) - an engagement has happened. - ( and don t say its ooRP - cause it can very well be in RP - house militaries deploy battleships as bridgeheads vs. pirates - so that these pirates "stay away" )
the battleship cannot kill the fighter - but maybe thats not the point in any case. - the battleship is there to provide a secure space. - now ask yourself - ( think IN character, not as a player ) - will a fighterpilot stick around a battleship - just "cause he can"? - or will he just leg it and retreat ( a character doesn t know about 4 hours - but he does know about the peril of a capital warship )
when we re seriously roleplaying - the fighter just retreats. - when the players agree on it ( surprisingly - one can talk to most players if one is not insulting them in the first place ) - it can easily happen that the battleship only wants to profide security for this location.
a serious dialogue does NOT happen though - when the fighter pilot PMs the battleship "you cap-whore ruin all the fun" - thats never a good thing to start a reasonable discussion.
sadly though - most players think as players and not as characters. - they want to win. and if they cannot win - at least achieve any kind of victory - either a victory by rules, a victory by argument or a victory by simply being annoying.
personally - when i pirate and a ship approaches that i simply cannot win against that comes to get me - i am retreating as fast as i can. anything else is ooRP ( for me ) - cause my char will not want to fight a loosing battle.
in short - the fighter should only dodge if he is sure to get enough reinforcements to have a chance. - if he has no chance - i wonder why the fighter would not want to retreat. - i find not a single RP reason for a fighter to stick around eternally - just to score a win.