' Wrote:Dev here. These things are being worked on. I believe the player bases have the priority after getting turret steering fixed. Player docking and such will need to be done as well, but we're still hashing out what we want with those.
' Wrote:jump drives, claok device, docking modules and playable stations chec.... wait!!! they are not out with 4.86
4.86 is out and non of the above are out.
I, personaly, don't see anything special about this stuff and as far as I'm concerned it can be left a side. The mod has it's flaws as any other does, but in general it's great. Besides, it's still beta. Forgot?
' Wrote:let me tell you something.... Its a free mod. As people pointed out its beta version. People like you just whine and whine.... the devs are trying to make them bug free and then figure out things before they release so that people don't abuse. Have you tried to help the development of 4.86? NO!! People like you don't understand the difficulty of it. Trying to insult others who do them is not good at all!! Its you being rude to all. Learn to appreciate or just keep quiet. Just posting admins and dev only will not gather them here anyway.... As i said its not good on your part to keep whining while they are at their best trying to do things.
+1+1+1 i agree with you completely
Yes. Its free. And wait until it done fully.
' Wrote:Just a generic question: we got an ETA on that?
No. It'll be released when it's done.
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Just to add, Theres actually a post outlining and answering all your questions, I believe by cannon. It was about 3 days after the 4.86 first release.
Now if you cant find it, Let me tell you, some of these things are "In the game" Just no-one has them, Go to one of the servers claiming they will give you a cloak or JJ then try using it, Pretty nice, Love the work admins put into it all, HEY WAIT CTD
Relog, Cool!!!! I like the effects, wow they over did this L33T hey were did my hud go, why cant I get my ship back arggggg!
If you really want to try, Start your own local server, Rep Hack admin love and lots of it, Dock on admin station, And buy some gear.
Theres a post here detailing how to use it, I had some serious issues playing with JJ but the Cloak was pretty nice and easy.
Also while your there, Buy an admin cannon and go pew pew things, Its fun for about 5 minutes, Then you relog Discovery RP 24/7, For some reason, slumming it out, getting shot at/Pirated in your "sub-par" ship is more fun than being the biggest and best king of sirus.
Not being smart, just saying, Have a play if you really want, And go Crazy, It is fun for a short time, But its not a game if everything is given to you off the mark.
' Wrote:let me tell you something.... Its a free mod. As people pointed out its beta version. People like you just whine and whine.... the devs are trying to make them bug free and then figure out things before they release so that people don't abuse. Have you tried to help the development of 4.86? NO!! People like you don't understand the difficulty of it. Trying to insult others who do them is not good at all!! Its you being rude to all. Learn to appreciate or just keep quiet. Just posting admins and dev only will not gather them here anyway.... As i said its not good on your part to keep whining while they are at their best trying to do things.
I can laugh at this post. Let me tell you something ? Who you think you are?
Guess you have to read my post again. Im not pissed with the Dev. Team nor the Admins. Just the fact that all were told it will be released with 4.86. How the heck shall I know this is a beta?
Oh yes I know its free and as I wrote I love this mod.
People like you just post to be cool and dont understand what I wrote. And how can I help the Dev. Team`?
Iam quiet if it would be me keep 4.85. I could have waited another year for the final release of 4.86.
Yes there are bugs and fixes I understand. But tellin the comunity that these items will be released with 4.86
wich didnt happen is - how I see it rude. WHY ?
I did not find a post why its not out yet nor why its sold on the admins base in FL 24/7 RP Server and nowhere else.
Im askin the Dev. Team and they gave me an answer. But sayin it will be out when its done..........
In general:
I am more then happy with what we have. If you want more learn how to do the dev tasks, I also am willing to learn some basics. Or start to pay the Devs. Our Devs are a way too good for non professional game programmers, that's why our community is really demanding on them- because they think that everything is easy and possible to do.
In my work I work with 3 engineers- I do strategic marketing analyses on very complicated parts of atom reactors that my firm sells, as economist I have no idea about the technical part- but the good organization helps a lot- when I hit some wall there is always someone to help me and guide me. I find the current situation similar- we have 2-3 really good Devs but they cannot handle the brutal amount of bugs so fast- it is normal and understandable.
Devs could organize the work by difficulty, since there are a lot of capable people that can do the basics-
even if I have little to no idea of programming( basic HTML, some statistic programs understanding,casual excel user- typical economic stuff- pivos, macros...) I am quite sure that I could do the ugly work. Like in the other topic about docking- it is not that hard to add already written FLhook plugin to Stations or remap hard points- it just require other level of organization.
With the example above- the community wanted all heavy capital ship slots to be in the first 1-6 gun slots so they could be manual fired and easily chain fired- it is reasonable demand but since it is large amount lot of simple work it becomes secondary task so the primary devs can do the more urgent issues, if we had secondary level of devs they would do it meanwhile.
In order to get my point check this matrix:
I know that you have good ticketing system but adding layers to it- with difficulty tasks would make it to work better, combine that with the more experienced devs working only on the most complex tasks and writing understandable tutorials for the simple tasks that are time wasters for their level but at the same time interesting for casual players like me.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)