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Innocence & Guilt.

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Poll: If someone has been accused of something, should they be punished before evidence is provided/found or after the evidence is provided/found.
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Yes.
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6 8.96%
No.
91.04%
61 91.04%
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Innocence & Guilt.
Offline Errant.Venture
07-14-2009, 12:37 PM,
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hrm i have a feeling this is aimed at me...indirectly.


innocent till proven guilty, however both sides have to have valid evidence. also...in my opinion discrepencies in stories come into play.

if it is in regards to the post by ::Rhubarb:: then i honestly dont care...obviously there are 2 sides to a story.



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Offline n00bl3t
07-14-2009, 01:09 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-14-2009, 01:10 PM by n00bl3t.)
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' Wrote:(...) Pechstein is accused of doping in February 2009.

International Skating Unions Decision

In Claudia Pechstein's case there isnt any positive doping test.

So in some cases...yes

I am asking for your thoughts on the matter, not what happened in the ice-skating world. (However, I am glad you posted that.)


' Wrote:hrm i have a feeling this is aimed at me...indirectly.
innocent till proven guilty, however both sides have to have valid evidence. also...in my opinion discrepencies in stories come into play.

if it is in regards to the post by ::Rhubarb:: then i honestly dont care...obviously there are 2 sides to a story.

No.

This thread was made yesterday.

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It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.
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Offline Errant.Venture
07-14-2009, 01:10 PM,
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oh...well then my apologies for jumping to conclusions.....


seriously tho are you gonna give us the scenario?

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[4:17:08 PM] Michał Golański: I knew you have some prehistoric backing to kick them in the nuts.

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Offline n00bl3t
07-14-2009, 01:14 PM,
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' Wrote:oh...well then my apologies for jumping to conclusions.....
seriously tho are you gonna give us the scenario?

No problems.

Yes. (However, I did not say when.)

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Offline William Frederick Cody
07-14-2009, 01:23 PM,
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' Wrote:I am asking for your thoughts on the matter, not what happened in the ice-skating world. (However, I am glad you posted that.)
' Wrote:I think the question is basic. (However, that is from my perspective.)

Feel free to vote and discuss.
That was more the basic part, i dunno, what the real "matter" is. Please, tell us what you really mean, otherwise we can only make loopholes

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Offline n00bl3t
07-14-2009, 01:34 PM,
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' Wrote:That was more the basic part, i dunno, what the real "matter" is. Please, tell us what you really mean, otherwise we can only make loopholes

Well, I wanted to know your thoughts on whether someone should be punished before or after proof is supplied of whether they are guilty or not. Specifically, your thoughts. (That is, each and every person who comes across this thread.)

' Wrote:(However, I am glad you posted that.)

As per the above, I am glad you posted that little tidbit, because it provides discussion.

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Offline Dejavu
07-14-2009, 04:30 PM,
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It would be unfair if it was done before the evidence was shown

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Offline n00bl3t
07-15-2009, 04:18 AM,
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' Wrote:It would be unfair if it was done before the evidence was shown

That is what I think as well, but I have not voted yet.

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Offline Jihadjoe
07-15-2009, 01:48 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-15-2009, 01:53 PM by Jihadjoe.)
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I firmly beleive in the idea of pre-emptive punishment. It's something which I practice frequently, using you as my social guinea pigs to see what effect it will have on the minds of the populace of my future empire. I shall laugh in a sinister fashion now...


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Ok... I'm done now.

On a more serious note rather than the utter fabrication I have posted there, I am someone who will (in my position) punish those who have actualy done something wrong. That means I'll have to have proof of the fact they did it.

However, there is something to be said for preventtative measures, despite my earlier joke on the subject...

Bringing this down to the level we operate at in discovery, there are certian people or groups who have an overly agressive or destructive mindset ooc. Thats something I'll try to deal with one way or another... Is that a punishment? I dunno.


I am interested as to the motives behind the poll though. Could those be clarified?

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Offline Weedalot
07-15-2009, 01:55 PM,
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I was punished before the conclusion and on both occasions i was deemed "Unguilty" on both cases, it would be great not to punish anyone without final conclusion. you call it "pre-emptive punishment." But once it was proved that i have done nothing wrong, was i compensated? Nope i was not.:(

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