Other than Order...

[Treewyrm]

But, I am sure that many ignorant human inhabitants of Sirius would think of them that way. In a sense, it is a terrible act of Metagaming, since most people should not know about that much about the Nomads. The BHG and the Order obviously take them very seriously, but to be honest, I can see this stereotypical British Big Game Hunter going, "Well, heck, I've shot everything that moves on Cambridge, what's next?"

I just laugh at it. As a matter of fact it's a good thing they don't take 'em seriously. This creates a false sense of security, not realizing what truly goes around, what conspiracies are brewing away from prying eyes and minds. Let them dwell in ignorance. They'll never see it coming.

But this time no magic red button artifact. It's all going to be just fine.

[... kur nubėgo?]

The Order is not a terrorist group.

They are killing people to kill nomads if they need.

Also they fake and use other factiosn for their own cause. watch here Bundshcuh, were simply used. as well as Blood Dragons.

They are people who will do -ANYTHING- to get rid of the nomads. And good guys do not act like that.

"guilt must die" attitude is terror.

People acting terror are terrorists.

Simple.



And to suggest a faction which fights nomads... well you can always make a freelancer and make his story. Edison Trent was a freelancer.

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Omega Pirates Guild

History of OPG | Antonio "Vilkas" Devivar

[Treewyrm]

Edison Trent was freelancer, i.e. factionless. Also it's not about good guys vs bad guys, as a matter of fact in Freelancer there are no true good and no true evil. There are clashes of interests. Territory, politics, influence. Many things bring several agendas into one place and they cannot, unwilling or simply unable to split what each other one wants. And so conflicts begin, through different means to achieve their goals that best fit faction's style. Between the real purpose, real interests and portrayal of the role is a huge difference. This isn't comics where everything is flat and simple, there are no true and universal protagonists and antagonists. From one perspective to another it's often a huge difference.

So it's not that simple. You just want to make it look simple for yourself, but just because you don't see what's more there doesn't mean there is nothing at all.

Try to look past beyond the constraints and archetypes of typical heroes vs villains comics. But even plenty of them, despite the intentional contrast of roles and characters, show lot more variety and depth than your description.

[Birdtalon]

Most people believe the Order are all terrorists and we actually like that opinion because it is a ruse under which we can hide our true nature.

We don't want to harm humans, it's just most of them will stand in our way of protecting humanity.

As for other factions related to Nomads, the Order is the only purely human faction related strongly to Nomads.
The BHG just want the technology of the Nomads to better themselves.
The Wilde are a whole different kettle of fish.
Nothing is simple, everything changes.

There is only room for one pure anti-nomad faction becasue there just isn't enough Nomads. Nomad RP is very specialised and is strongly and correctly regulated. If we want to avoid ganking and flaming there can only be one pure anti-nomad faction; and, in RP terms - if there were more than one that shared the same views then surely they would join forces under one banner rather than working against eachother for a common goal. "The enemy of your enemy is your friend" as they say.

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[... kur nubėgo?]

Edison Trent was freelancer, i.e. factionless. Also it's not about good guys vs bad guys, as a matter of fact in Freelancer there are no true good and no true evil. There are clashes of interests. Territory, politics, influence. Many things bring several agendas into one place and they cannot, unwilling or simply unable to split what each other one wants. And so conflicts begin, through different means to achieve their goals that best fit faction's style. Between the real purpose, real interests and portrayal of the role is a huge difference. This isn't comics where everything is flat and simple, there are no true and universal protagonists and antagonists. From one perspective to another it's often a huge difference.

So it's not that simple. You just want to make it look simple for yourself, but just because you don't see what's more there doesn't mean there is nothing at all.

Try to look past beyond the constraints and archetypes of typical heroes vs villains comics. But even plenty of them, despite the intentional contrast of roles and characters, show lot more variety and depth than your description.

You talk crap here. Sorry, but totaly. There is no -one- point of view, this is what you are tryingto say. But I believe, that there is only -ONE- truth and a lot of diffrent false interpretation of it.

I think we all have a sense of ethic and morality. Yes? Humanism. In which all diffrent people can be judged while ignoring most of the diffrences.

If you really believe in what you talk, you are defending Al Quida terrorists blowing up the supermarktes in 09/11, ETA terrorists (who just want to have their own country). and variuos other terrorists groups. Who really have good ideas sometimes. But the thing which really metters is methods how they are trying to reach them.


There is one truth. I think most people agree with 10 comandments even if they are not believers themselves. And here, Order use methods which have an idea, which is perhaps is not bad, but method to reach that is wrong.

You can be a very good and nice person. You can have very nice ideas and wishes. But the way to hell is paved with good intentions. Order oversteps its bounds. They use terrorist methods. That means they are terrorists.

Now Corsairs are pirates, who has low morality level. But thats not terrorism. Of course, low morality level and agression makes them, bad people.


But now I think agian. Today our world is perhaps quite more simple than that futuristic vision of freelancer. So I can be wrong here.

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Omega Pirates Guild

History of OPG | Antonio "Vilkas" Devivar

[Tovig]

The Order is actually a Chaotic Good faction. They will do sometimes some nasty things but it's for the good of mankind. If they have to kill 1 people to save 1 billion, they will.

[Jeremy Hunter]

Eh, Birdtalon?
Keeping BHG from taking Nomad tech is under "Fighting Nomads" In my book.
Let someone swarm over Nomad systems, take tech, and probably get infected is a big risk.
The two are one and the same.

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May you ever walk in the Light, Shizune.

[crimecities]

Regarding intelligence agencies I'm afraid you're incorrect as you do not consider the situation each of those houses are in right now. Bretonia is largely occupied with the war against Kusari, with the situation in Leeds it does looks grim. Not to mention they're on the opposite side of Sirius, far from Nomad worlds than anyone else. For research purposes they have abandoned city in Newcastle. Kusari on the other hand have Aoi Isenjin to deal with, just as Rheinland has Das Wilde. This pretty much leaves only Liberty, but they don't go far into Nomad systems (except Alaska of course) either because between them there is the Order, besides now they're in a conflict with Rheinland. Spreading resources thin in times when you need them the most is a bad idea.

Spreading resources may be a bad idea, but so is only collecting intelligence on one group and ignoring everyone else. If if you only spied on one group, you would be completely blind to whatever everyone else is trying to do. A terrorist group within liberty might decide to carry out large-scale attacks on foreign citizens while the LSF are all spying on Rheinland The whole point of an intelligence agency is to identity all threats to a given nation or group, and possibly eliminate them before a small threat turns into a big one.

While it is true that intelligence agencies will have a good chunk of their resources spent on spying on the house they are at war with, the nomads are a extremely long term threat to all of humanity, as oppose to the kind of common wars that have happened all throughout humanity's history. Not just in space either, there's also nomad-infested individuals planetside, in cities. Intelligence work is a good way to locate and eliminate individuals like this.

So a nation like bretonia and liberty is far from nomad-infested systems. That doesn't mean that there won't be smaller-scale attempts by the nomads to sneak into human society. There are nomad-infested individuals in every house (aside from gallia at the moment, but that's only because gallia has been closed off for so long)

[Jeremy Hunter]

So a pure intelligence group would be an ideal thing?
If so, then I got an idea!
Then again, I have severl thousand ideas in my head, no necasarily FL though...none dirty mind you perverts out there!
No offence, anyone.

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May you ever walk in the Light, Shizune.

[jammi]

So a pure intelligence group would be an ideal thing?
If so, then I got an idea!
Then again, I have severl thousand ideas in my head, no necasarily FL though...none dirty mind you perverts out there!
No offence, anyone.

All the Houses already have fully developed intelligence agencies attached to their respective House military. Seriously, if you're making a new character, actually make it new. Do something totally non-Nomad related.

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