Call for a NEW server rule, POB vs Player interaction, Responsible Placement

[Laura C.]

Also, weapon platforms should not be placed at 5K away from the base, you can see that in NY with those 2 bases from Manhattan and second near West Point.

They ruined all the gameplay.

How? Unlawfuls shouldn´t be at Manhattan or West Point or near of them. They even shouldn´t be using lanes and gates. I don´t see problem with these two bases.

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On a ragebreak. Or ragequit. Time will tell.

[Sava]

Each time I have a fight there (no matter with lawful or unlawful char), my FPS drops below terrible.
Yes, unlawfuls shouldn't be there. Remove the platforms, so I can hit them at once.

Edit:
Also, should navy accidentally hit the base (for instance, when CDing an unlawful), all these platforms start shooting him as well. Yes, base can kill unlawfuls on its own, but when it comes to a player interaction, it harms both sides in a very unsporty way.

...Unless you just want to hug it and laugh at the players who try to kill you (which describes you as a very contributing participant of the gameplay).

[Syrus]

*schnipp*

Go there:
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=110567

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[Spud]

Each time I have a fight there (no matter with lawful or unlawful char), my FPS drops below terrible.

That should be fixed by reducing refire rate of the platforms in exchange of higher projectile speed and damage.

Also, should navy accidentally hit the base (for instance, when CDing an unlawful), all these platforms start shooting him as well. Yes, base can kill unlawfuls on its own, but when it comes to a player interaction, it harms both sides in a very unsporty way.

That should be fixxed by making it so that the base never shoots ships which are green to it, ever, except if they are specifically put on the hostile list. Not like you'll ever have enough firepower from freelancers to harm the base anyway. Why transfer the same stupid, unrealistic, and game experience-wrecking problem of NPC bases and ship to plaer bases?

...Unless you just want to hug it and laugh at the players who try to kill you (which describes you as a very contributing participant of the gameplay).

Personally I always thought that pirate ships/fleets camping navy bases like West Point one of the most OORP things to be seen in discovery.

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[Zen_Mechanics]

Sounds reasonable, But I suppose this will effect future stations, and not ones that exist. Unless ofcourse you will go mad because they wont move the existing ones? in that case you might as well tell the others what this rule is all about, its about a few stations who you and some others dont like, and you should perpas change the law to reflect the existing ones too. Now, please be honest enough to admit that this rule comes from a backwater place in your head, who doesn't like those bases. Any base that is currently constructed at popular places, or at jump holes is very much likely to be destroyed till it reaches even core - 2. So, base placements aren't a problem in populated places. This rule doesn't justify anything, other than ones wishes.

Last minute edit : You people are the reason why others leave, the fact that you try to find any excuse to degrade something in discovery, to the point where no one even cares anymore. Is that a real issue to go around the base? Theres a reason why we have linked systems, so if u are mad that u can't pass to dublin from 49, do it from londor, but don't take all of their work to the trash just because you and this fake propganda wants to

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[Sava]

...Unless you just want to hug it and laugh at the players who try to kill you (which describes you as a very contributing participant of the gameplay).

Personally I always thought that pirate ships/fleets camping navy bases like West Point one of the most OORP things to be seen in discovery.

Seems like you don't get my point.
I was talking about the players who hug an allied base.

[Spud]

Seems you didnt get mine.

If they're hugging it, someone is camping them at it, or they wouldnt be hugging it.

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[Mímir]

Heh I love how discussions on this forum rarely bases itself in what is actually said, but more often than not what some people think other people really meant to say.

Pob's are a scourge in their current form, sure they generate some activity - but activity of the poorest quality in general (silent oorp traders supplying unallied bases, silent miners running to hug their depots, huge base sieges that is more or less only about drinking coffee and keeping the right mouse button pressed, as well as unilateral/lopsided base roleplay (to the extent that some baseowners don't even realize when other people are actually roleplaying with them when they don't see eye to eye on things), inflated egos and players letting their pixel base own them) and it is fair to question if not those manhours would be better spent in other areas of the game if roleplay and a coherent/consistent universe were the goal.

If we had some rules and structures, perhaps bases could become meaningful roleplay entities, but in their current form they are detrimental to role- and gameplay and I have a hunch that some of the lag is base-related. I'd argue that the total removal of all PoB's would be in the interest of the vast majority of players here.

Tl;dr: The argument that bases foster desirable activity is bollocks, in their current form bases contribute with nothing in almost all cases.

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[Highland Laddie]

There were silent traders even when PoBs weren't reactivated. Obviously they're not the cause of that.

Like the devs, I think I'm more in favor of the "make.bases weaker/destructible" route more than the "make a base-killing superweapon" route. Seems like it would be much easier to implement.


Do that,.and make a rule bases need to be 10k from anything.dockable: lanes, gates, holes,.and npc bases.

Problem solved.

[Sava]

Seems you didnt get mine.

If they're hugging it, someone is camping them at it, or they wouldnt be hugging it.

You are exactly the type I described above.
You want your safety ensured by the server mechanics.