' Wrote:The big issue is, of course, how do you get the weapons in the first place, since they're no longer dropped by npc's.
Let assume a free char for any reasod start working for the order and goes killing BHG; he could ends up with a rep good enough to buy nomads from the order base, right?
Anyway... since I'm already off-topic I'll ask you two more questions
1) Let assume I would like to build a Wild Char, what kind of ID should I use? The nomad one?
2) Does and official/unofficial Wild faction exists? I have not seen any of them around.
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(Former chars on Disco 4.82)-- The old Lorry Family --
Lump Lorry freelancer trader. chief of the Lorrys | Manta Lorry freelancer pilot | [HF] Cesare Lorry fighter pilot, HF member | sso|Ace Wolverine Lorry bounty hunter | [RM] M(anfred) Von Lorryhofen Rheinland Military pilot | [AEGIS] GB 303 Ticonderoga AEGIS artificial intelligence gunboat | (secret
member) In charge of keeping the family's secrets
The weapons are purchasable on Order bases, right? So, in theory, someone friendly to the Order could make some suitable exchange and get Nomad guns - with a SRP request before actually mounting them and after carrying out suitable forum RP? Guess LSF or the likes who could actually get hold of Nomad stuff might have it too - with a SRP thingy, that is.
(Former chars on Disco 4.82)-- The old Lorry Family --
Lump Lorry freelancer trader. chief of the Lorrys | Manta Lorry freelancer pilot | [HF] Cesare Lorry fighter pilot, HF member | sso|Ace Wolverine Lorry bounty hunter | [RM] M(anfred) Von Lorryhofen Rheinland Military pilot | [AEGIS] GB 303 Ticonderoga AEGIS artificial intelligence gunboat | (secret
member) In charge of keeping the family's secrets
The Keepers are a sort of blend of application and invitation. There are several other factions where you can't have an NPC faction ID without also being in the player faction (HF, =CR=, SCRA etc.) - pretty much all the non-vanilla ones.
Aren't Nomad ships linked with the Nomad brain? Therefore they just could destroy the weapons, if the Ship is getting captured/destroyed? In my opinion, even Order shouldn't use Nomad weapons. I mean when BHG ships got 'em and corsairs can steal it away from them, also other people just can steal the weaps from the Order?
And other people cannot get Nomad guns just because "I'm friendly with someone from the Order and they got them for me." Same as with weapons dealers, just cause you can get them from a weapons dealer, doesn't mean your character can mount them.
SRPR can negate that of course, but it needs to be better RP then "oh, my friend/weapons dealer sold them to me."
' Wrote:Thanks Agmen for your answers
Let assume a free char for any reasod start working for the order and goes killing BHG; he could ends up with a rep good enough to buy nomads from the order base, right?
Anyway... since I'm already off-topic I'll ask you two more questions
1) Let assume I would like to build a Wild Char, what kind of ID should I use? The nomad one?
2) Does and official/unofficial Wild faction exists? I have not seen any of them around.
We are around. We just don't fly with tags since, while we've shown again and again that we can tear Osiris/Geb/Praefect/Legate swarms a new one, it gets tiresome. The lack of tags also allows us to better manipulate those around us without them just going ZOMGNOMADZIMAFIRINMAENGAGIBUGNOTICE. Hang out in the Omegas or northern Kusari for long enough and you'll probably meet us (Das Wilde or Aoi Iseijin, respectively)- especially on Saturday nights.
And yes, we're official. There will be no unofficial Wild. Ever. Period. Don't bother. Should be pretty obvious why (even more so than why there won't be indy Nomads with full PvP abilities ever).
If you want to be infested, you should talk to us forum-wise, or roleplay an acolyte or summat and hang out around Tekagi's Arch. Iseijin does most recruitment ingame and is the subtle, tricksy type, while Das Wilde is far more militarized and more likely to shoot you if we don't know you.
EDIT: The Nomad Energy Weapons available to the Order are not the same as the Nomad Lasers that the Keepers use. They are the result of projects started during the Nomad War to integrate superior Nomad weapons technology into human ships, and as such are not directly linked to the mind of the ship they're on (since human ships have firing computers, not "minds"). While theoretically they are safe, they still utilize technology beyond the comprehension of the people who produce them and are not considered fit for mass deployment.
' Wrote:And yes, we're official. There will be no unofficial Wild. Ever. Period. Don't bother. Should be pretty obvious why (even more so than why there won't be indy Nomads with full PvP abilities ever).
If you want to be infested, you should talk to us forum-wise, or roleplay an acolyte or summat and hang out around Tekagi's Arch. Iseijin does most recruitment ingame and is the subtle, tricksy type, while Das Wilde is far more militarized and more likely to shoot you if we don't know you.
Ok, I'm not very often on-line on saturday night but we will see in space. Thanks for the info. By the way... what do you mean with "night"? I mean... in which time zone?
Lump Lorry on behalf of the Lorry Family
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(Former chars on Disco 4.82)-- The old Lorry Family --
Lump Lorry freelancer trader. chief of the Lorrys | Manta Lorry freelancer pilot | [HF] Cesare Lorry fighter pilot, HF member | sso|Ace Wolverine Lorry bounty hunter | [RM] M(anfred) Von Lorryhofen Rheinland Military pilot | [AEGIS] GB 303 Ticonderoga AEGIS artificial intelligence gunboat | (secret
member) In charge of keeping the family's secrets
I really dont get this. OK, i understand the ruling, but i just dont get why they would make this rule. We make such a big deal about not using an enemies guns. Thats so huge, one of the biggest things here, matching guns. You can only use your factions and certain close allies, or maybe only so many etc etc etc.
Now for some reason order is allowed to use nomad weapons? Their primary enemy? And then somehow the BHG core gets it too? Really? I mean i get it you got the special rp permission im not doubting that, but just where does this stop? Why order and bhg core? Why cant the outcasts come up with a special rp request go get some tizonas?
Am i really alone on this or does anyone else think that its just wrong?
Even if they can use nomad weapons. It won't give much advantage. Now why?.. Hunter regular guns are 750m/s nomad prototypes 600m/s. And since bh can have only 2 of them, it unavoidable leads to reduced aim.