7- and 8-gun gunboats

[Veygaar]

Balance should be about fighting skills, not ability to escape.

It is, that's what we've been saying, but several people have been failing to realize this... and interpreting it as something else.

Yes there are some overpowered and under-powered gunboats. But it has nothing to do with weapon archs, and that is what the people who actually understand what they're talking about are trying to say.

But... ignorance is bliss to some it seems (not specifically YOU, but... "other" people in this thread).

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[Prysin]

Or give it a new model.

the BHG has been discussing this...The BHG's initial ideas were to make Bnose and Orca two extremes of the same class. One insane snub hunter, one insane GB/cap hunter... And depending on which you bring to the fight, you will either be totally screwd or come out as the unquestionable winner...

So... just pray that devs wanna grant us what we want. and maybe. just maybe, itll be less of a jack-of-all-trades and more of a dedicated extreme...

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[Yber]

Ursus, the problem of the bottlenose is not about turrets, agility, or anything else. Just like a sabre can hit a liberator, you can hit a bottlenose with a kuex. Oh, wait, you can't. That's the problem. The problem is the HITBOX, anything else is fine. It's just too small.

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inb4 Sirius gets renamed to XTF.

[... kur nubėgo?]

Ursus, the problem of the bottlenose is not about turrets, agility, or anything else. Just like a sabre can hit a liberator, you can hit a bottlenose with a kuex. Oh, wait, you can't. That's the problem. The problem is the HITBOX, anything else is fine. It's just too small.

Or it has too powerful shield for a ship of such manuvarability and size. Then you think that bret gb uses same shield as way lighter Bnose .. something seems out of balance.

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[Lunaphase]

Same with the osirus using same sheild as the nephelim dreadnought. 7x more massive and same sheild.

Honestly i think a better idea would be a new ship class between gb and cruisers similar to how bc covers between cruisers and bs.

Frigates with 2 cruiser primary slots and gb guns or somthing.

Turret arcs arent a problem for the current gunboats, though ill admit the nerfed arcs on things such as the nephelim and LAC do hurt, on somthing as agile as a GB arcs arent the problem, size and agility are.

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[Blodo]

I'll just pop in and say: gunboats are not balanced to 1v1 other gunboats. They are balanced as support ships for fighters and other caps, and that's how they should be used. People shouldn't really try to compare gunboats of different weight classes, since it's a bit like comparing fighters to bombers...