' Wrote:I hate that fights revolve around mines. I will always be terrible at this game so long as mines continue to be the main source of Fighter dogfight damage.
' Wrote:As long as we are QQ about ships, I would like to rant about Orca vs Tridente
Tridente is OP because of the holes, BHG GB could use 6 forward turrets or normal forward gun indeed, but the balance is not that easy- because in RP at least not that actually happens so often- Tridente must face the Imperator- and Imperator have 8 forward guns and 6 backward guns with 600k core- indeed it is sluggish and big but if you can use it right it is very good gb.
So the balance is not only between this 2 boats, you could also see that Orca with 500k have good chances vs Molly/Rogue gb or Hacker GS with 400k and Turret bottlenose eat Imperators with turret steering- dancing around them etc.
The truth about many 4.85 ships is that many have terrible hit-boxes and terrible shield bubbles, so the ones with the proper hit-boxes and shield bubbles look OP.
Aet fixed that for 4.86 so now nobody can see how they will work see here for example: http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?...pic=114023
In 4.86 the people with good aims will rock much harder then now and it will be kinda hard for causal PvPers like me but that's where beta testing coming in place.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
Orca is weak vs most gunboats, that's the problem. Even if you make the forward gun a regular turret (which it should), then it is only on par with weapons but is still weaker on turn rate, hull strength, and ship size. It's just a really weak ship compared to the others (Rogue/Molly probably the only thing worse and why they are rarely used).
And Tridente is supposed to be a gunSHIP so it should have stats like the Bottlenose, not > Orca
Orca is weak vs most gunboats, that's the problem. Even if you make the forward gun a regular turret (which it should), then it is only on par with weapons but is still weaker on turn rate, hull strength, and ship size. It's just a really weak ship compared to the others (Rogue/Molly probably the only thing worse and why they are rarely used).
And Tridente is supposed to be a gunSHIP so it should have stats like the Bottlenose, not > Orca
Bottlenose in exchange is the best ship in the gunboat class- 2 of them well flown eat almost everything so it is np. The worst GB in the mod is the LH one but it compensates with good turrets and fast turning- but still it is the worst.
And no Orca is not that bad boat really It is fast boat with good strafing abilities- due to the 500k core and the 3 good positioned turrets it is cool razor/pulse boat. Ask the EDGE guys they could teach you how to fly orca right.
And as the only faction that have 2 GBs that need to be balanced vs all unlawful GBs and Nomad and Order GB the both BHG ships do quite well actually- because it is balance nightmare to balance 1 GB vs 10 different kind of GBs really.
As far as I know I might be wrong but Orca should be Core ship- it means it should be used vs Order and Nomads (Both heavy gbs) mainly- hence the good speed and the forward gun(witch is flawed right now).
About the gunship/boat it is the same as cruiser /dessie- the Molly cruiser is lighter then the bret desie so it is name and have nothing to do with the ship stats actually.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)