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Jihadjoe · (This post was last modified: 12-24-2011, 08:24 PM by Jihadjoe.)

It is a disagreement regarding roleplay that you are talking about. That is not covered by anything in those guidelines. Stop posting.

Furthermore, I have read that chatlog you're refering to, and it was not Dab who started ranting.

SMI-Great.Fox · 12-24-2011, 07:13 PM,

' Wrote:So yes, I told my guys they can stay in "hibernation" until .86, when the roleplay environment won't allow for such ridiculous breaches of faction ZoIs, out of roleplay alliances born of nonsensical Gallia-hate that is pervading the community for some reason no one can figure out, and where we'll be allowed to actually fight our main storyline enemy. An enemy we're being told we cannot fight currently, despite our lore.

Honestly..From hearing such, this is kinda sad.

You don't see the BAF, [LN], and [RM] hibernating now do yah just to wait for 4.86? (Definately not the [LN] cause of their good recruitment vids they make xD)

Cause of such, CCCP were created, thus not having a proper guide to show them the ropes. And look how they went. Forshame GRN, forshame.

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**jammi** · 12-24-2011, 07:15 PM,

' Wrote:Cause of such, CCCP were created, thus not having a proper guide to show them the ropes. And look how they went. Forshame GRN, forshame.

Seriously?

You seriously said that? :lol:

The CCCP were a clan import. It wouldn't have mattered if the GRN had been about or not, the end result would have been the same. If the GRN had been active, the only difference probably would have been a civil war and a lot more sanction reports.

That said, Tau 31, yes? ;)

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Rodriguez · 12-24-2011, 07:50 PM,

' Wrote:Seriously?

You seriously said that? :lol:

The CCCP were a clan import. It wouldn't have mattered if the GRN had been about or not, the end result would have been the same. If the GRN had been active, the only difference probably would have been a civil war and a lot more sanction reports.

That said, Tau 31, yes? ;)

They were not the brightest, but they showed that GRN has things to do in the Taus.
It's funny to see that GRN| complains that they can't fight BAF in the taus, when they are suppose to fight KNF first.
And beyond that, it's funny to see that GRN complains about OC's, IMG, KNF, CR, BAF shooting them, when it's GRN who started invading.

What basically I'm saying is... "We won't be active because we can't fight BAF", is so lame.

Pancakes · 12-24-2011, 07:56 PM,

' Wrote:They were not the brightest, but they showed that GRN has things to do in the Taus.
It's funny to see that GRN| complains that they can't fight BAF in the taus, when they are suppose to fight KNF first.
And beyond that, it's funny to see that GRN complains about OC's, IMG, KNF, CR, BAF shooting them, when it's GRN who started invading.

What basically I'm saying is... "We won't be active because we can't fight BAF", is so lame.

When you bother to read, come back.

The "whining" is not about being shot by all of these, but the fact most of GRN| are on a different timezone than most of KNF, thus unable to fight each other. Anyway, CCCP had activity only because they went to Omicron Alpha all the time, attacking the OC swarms.

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**jammi** · 12-24-2011, 08:03 PM,

' Wrote:When you bother to read, come back.

The "whining" is not about being shot by all of these, but the fact most of GRN| are on a different timezone than most of KNF, thus unable to fight each other. Anyway, CCCP had activity only because they went to Omicron Alpha all the time, attacking the OC swarms.

It's more to do with the fact that the BAF| and [KNF] never go into the Taus. All the action takes place in Leeds. Which leaves the GRN in a bit of an awkward position. Still, if you guys brought your ships out in T31, say at the T29 or Leeds gates, or even near Harris, people would probably turn up.

Especially if you poked the relevant Skype chats.

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~~Irwin~~ · 12-24-2011, 08:31 PM,

Yello. Going to pop in here for a bit. Not trying to keep your activity above the minimum amount to retain officialdom even if the admins are going to give you a pass for 4.86 or w/e, seems like abusing the situation.

There isn't too much to do in Gallia right now, that's the truth, but the GRP still has a little over 50 hours. All you need is 30 hours split among five members, and the GRP has had difficulty going much higher than we're at right now recently, but the GRN with its larger memberbase would be able to do it, if not at least hit the bare minimum.

Hitting your requirements even if there's a loophole or something making it so you don't have to for a month just makes you look good. Some advice to ya'll is to keep the online server list handy so you can log your Gallic characters if you see something in a system you've access to that strikes your interest, that's how I do it.

Anyhow, Jammi's suggested something which should help you guys with your activity, It would be smart for you guys take him up on it (if you can avoid the Nomads + Order + IMG + CR + Outcasts + Kusari + Bretonia + Zoners alliances that is.:P) Hell, maybe you could get a skype chat going with the KNF, BAF, and GRN, call it the invasion chat or somesuch and bump it when the GRN's ready to go lulzing about the Tau's.

@ Sebastian

It's funny to see all of Sirius making OORP alliances (Nomads + Order + IMG + CR + Outcasts + Kusari + Bretonia + Zoners + God Knows What Else,) which go against mod lore because the GRN are just following the lore they're supposed to follow.

I'm going to agree with you on your last point though (somewhat). While I believe the GRN should be allowed to fight the BAF, just because they can't doesn't mean they shouldn't try to keep up their activity.

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Rodriguez · 12-24-2011, 09:55 PM,

' Wrote:@ Sebastian

It's funny to see all of Sirius making OORP alliances (Nomads + Order + IMG + CR + Outcasts + Kusari + Bretonia + Zoners + God Knows What Else,) which go against mod lore because the GRN are just following the lore they're supposed to follow.

I'm going to agree with you on your last point though (somewhat). While I believe the GRN should be allowed to fight the BAF, just because they can't doesn't mean they shouldn't try to keep up their activity.

Leaving the nomads and order aside, as I've never seen them (Not saying it hasn't happened, just saying I've not seen it yet), all the others, with the exception of KNF, fighting together a bigger enemy which is attempting to rule over them does really make sense to me. What were you expecting? That OC and CR just let the GRN crush them? Or maybe I misreaded the lore for 4.86, but is it writen that OC fights the GRN alone before 4.86?

It does make sense for me, and it doesn't go so out of role play to fight a bigger threat together, and it's not like they stopped fighting eachother, it's just a thing of the moment.

Call me when the <strike>BHG makes a treaty with the sairs</strike> the OCs make a treaty with the CR to cease fire and take care of the GRN, then I'll call it OORP.

It's easy to say "We don't go to tau 31 because there is no one to fight".

It's easy for GRN to say that, it's easy for BAF and it's for KNF. The result is none of the 3 factions go to Tau 31 because none of the 3 factions ever go to Tau 31.

An amazing solution would be any of those factions starting going to Tau 31.

Dab · 12-24-2011, 10:20 PM,

' Wrote:It's easy to say "We don't go to tau 31 because there is no one to fight".

It's easy for GRN to say that, it's easy for BAF and it's for KNF. The result is none of the 3 factions go to Tau 31 because none of the 3 factions ever go to Tau 31.

An amazing solution would be any of those factions starting going to Tau 31.

I'd say you have a point, but GRN did go to Tau-31. And Tau-29. KNF have yet to come out and fight us.

~~Hone~~ · 12-25-2011, 12:03 AM,

Has Gallia actually declared proper war on Bretonia yet? Because if not, they dont have much time to do it, and start shooting BAF if they want to RP it before its forced on them with .86.

Also as for activity and going into the taus, why not pirate IMG miners there, and take the ore gallia needs so much?

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