Red Hessian Army feedback

[Das Wilde Wesen]

Hrmmm, I didn't notice that.

Ok then.

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[Lobster]

You attacked Berlin. Three times in a single day.

We are fine with that.


You attacked Berlin again the next day.

We are fine with that.


You attacked our station repeatedly.

We are fine with that.



We attack Omega 11.

Your members leave the [RM] faction and kick the [RM] members from the [RHA].


Did this attack annoy you?

If so, how can we improve relations between our factions in the future and avoid hurting your feelings?

[Blodo]

I'm sorry but what our indies do does not represent the stance of the RHA faction. If any RHA members left the RM faction, that was their prerogative and nobody asked them to do that. And the RM members that were kicked from RHA chat weren't flying their RHA much anyway.

Like I said in the other thread, we weren't prepared before this raid for this and we will be prepared now. That's pretty much all there is to say really.

[Lobster]

12 jorms and ~15 snubs logging onto the server within 15 minutes and you weren't prepared?

Im wondering what will happen if we fight you when you are prepared! Needless to say, the fights will surly be epic and I look forward to them.

I'm sorry but what our indies do does not represent the stance of the RHA faction.

Oh, good. Our RNC don't represent our stance either. Thank god for that right?



Good luck, have fun, good game.

[aerelm]

Did this attack annoy you?

If so, how can we improve relations between our factions in the future and avoid hurting your feelings?

Personal feelings of neither side is relevant to this matter as we brought forward a valid complaint based on valid facts, but you, as always, are trying to picture it as "QQ" just to get away from actually fixing the said issue.

The [RM] was criticized for supporting and even participating in the "indie cap ganks" which is definitely not a suitable behavior for an official faction, but based on your reply you as the current representative of the faction do not see anything wrong with what happened in o11, which was so stupid I can't even say it was sad, and apparently neither does the faction.

Want to fix the mess you've made? Bring Malexa back.
Hmm... You can't? Alright, then the alternative is simple - Don't gank.

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12 jorms and ~15 snubs logging onto the server within 15 minutes

I gave you the exact list of chars you had in space then told you the count. But you're pulling numbers out of your behind without having anything to back it up.

Give me any sort of proof of Hessian side having 12 Jorms in that fight before claiming we had nearly 30 ships in space within 15 minutes.

Our RNC don't represent our stance either. Thank god for that right?

Refer to the point I brought up in the other thread about "no control over indies".

[Govedo13]

Well I was in Omega 11 today in the lagfest, RM ships to Hessian ships ratio was 3:1. Rheinland ships totally ganked Hessian ships 100m from their base..
I am not member of any of the said factions so ye....

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Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

[kainname]

However, if you want to know we indy RNC's only scouted for the base, then 6 bombers attacked and cd'ed us. it was your own fault to do that.
Also I look forward for your new Jorms, we are up for good fights and I hope that you will start to RP more again, I liked your previous events very much.

Also we listen to the commands from [RM] and we [at least me] try to RP as much as it is possible in such a big fight.

[Yber]

Yo' there! Long time I don't give any kind of feedback. However this one will be the first negative.

Little background; I was cleaning Omega 7 of pirates with a BHG bomber. I chased a random indy, not one of your guys. He called another gunboat (yeah, he was a heimdall) and a fighter, your guy [RHA]Koroglu or something like that. Later another 2 guys showed up, however the just kept seeing how 2 gunboats and 1 fighter ganked me.

My QQ- complain- whatever; I think 1 GB vs 1 bomber is fair enough. 2 GBs vs 1 bomber is stupid. And 2 GBs plus 1 fighter vs 1 bomber is... I'll keep the words for me.

You can't complain about ganks if you do these full time. Just wanted to say so.

~Yeah, the Sunglasses guy.

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inb4 Sirius gets renamed to XTF.

[Blodo]

So, an isolated incident with a single Flieger who is still learning makes the entire argument obsolete? Ok.

I remember an incident about a year ago when Tony was still playing, someone contacted me on skype about being ganked in Omega-7. So I asked him for details, and he basically described to me a duel between two fighters. So I ask him "how is that ganking?", his response was "because the player who flied against me had much bigger skill so it was unfair toward me".

Point being, you wouldn't have won against that force anyway. You could've tried against the fighter in 1v1, but there is 9/10 chance you would lose. Against gunboat 1v1 there is 10/10 chance unless he literally stops shooting you and just takes punishment. Why did you engage a force you can't hurt? You can't blame the other side for your lack of common sense... if I attack the RM who are sporting RNC in backup, I expect to be shot back by them. That's not the issue here however, it's the "play to win" attitude sported by one member of the RM high command.

[Yber]

Won't argue, you're right, the only problem is, I did that, but it's a kind of hard when all bases around are hostiles and your guys keep CD'ing. Anyway, looks like I was wrong making that post, forget it!

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inb4 Sirius gets renamed to XTF.