(10-09-2012, 10:25 AM)AeternusDoleo Wrote: Exception will be the Debilitator series (and Gallic civvy series) - balance mentioned that this would make VHFs with a forward facing turret too powerful. Not sure I agree with that, but it's not my call.
Make Sabre turret class 1 rest of BW+1 turret line is weak anyway-the HF is medicore even if it have 1 gun more and the LF is huge, people always used the turret for faction gun class 2 and used debs on class 9m, same story with Guardian- this nerfs only generic ID Sabre users,freighters/SHFs and ships like junker VHF/Tokadeshu that have more turrets. Problem is that Debs are made for many ships and guns combo so it is harder to nerf them instead of changing the ships in question, other stuff get nerfed by this when it is not supposed to be nerfed.
If it is not possible to have class 2 Deb just make sure that we have 600,650,700 and 750 speed debs so all factions would be at equal level concerning guns speed synchronization.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
Go whine at the balance guys for that Govedo. It is not my call and frankly, I'm not the devteams secretary.
Dev update:
- Did some bugfixing in Frankfurt
- Replaced Waran and Ravens Talon with new models provided by Massdriver. Only a few low quality models left to eradicate.
Wide awake in a world that sleeps, enduring thoughts, enduring scenes. The knowledge of what is yet to come.
From a time when all seems lost, from a dead man to a world, without restraint, unafraid and free.
Mostly retired Discovery member. May still visit from time to time.
Quote:- All fighter turrets and gun lines have their speeds made consistent. IE: If the gun line is 700m/s, the turrets will be as well.
Can Adv.Debilitator turret mkI stay with its 700 m/s?
The reason why do i ask for it...
It's primarily used on old borderworlds ships, flown by such vanilla factions as Lane Hackers, Outcasts and Bundshu, all of them have 700 m/s guns.
Please, don't ruin our beloved turret.
Quote:- All fighter turrets and gun lines have their speeds made consistent. IE: If the gun line is 700m/s, the turrets will be as well.
Can Adv.Debilitator turret mkI stay with its 700 m/s?
The reason why do i ask for it...
It's primarily used on old borderworlds ships, flown by such vanilla factions as Lane Hackers, Outcasts and Bundshu, all of them have 700 m/s guns.
Please, don't ruin our beloved turret.
Or even make 3 Mks of Debilitator. Mk I with 750 m/s, Mk II with 700 and Mk III with 650.
(10-10-2012, 09:11 AM)Klatz Wrote: Indeed, what? Those models have been made to replace crappy IMG shipline.
IMG line was replaced last mod version, and will not be replaced. Besides, I only ever got a bomber and VHF. As true civilian ships, IMG folk can also use these ships, along with any civilian factions. (Some nice ships for 'lancers)
And no, the reason that there is no 700m/s GUN version of the Debilitator is, according to Blodo, that it makes the 4.0 700m/s weapon versions too powerful. So why in the nine hells we'd have a TURRET version of this doesn't compute. BW ship users don't get to be the exception. They can fill that turretslot with one of their own hullbusters if they want to keep weaponspeeds sync'd.
Wide awake in a world that sleeps, enduring thoughts, enduring scenes. The knowledge of what is yet to come.
From a time when all seems lost, from a dead man to a world, without restraint, unafraid and free.
Mostly retired Discovery member. May still visit from time to time.
Quote:And no, the reason that there is no 700m/s GUN version of the Debilitator is, according to Blodo, that it makes the 4.0 700m/s weapon versions too powerful. So why in the nine hells we'd have a TURRET version of this doesn't compute. BW ship users don't get to be the exception. They can fill that turretslot with one of their own hullbusters if they want to keep weaponspeeds sync'd.
We all know about Blodo's balancing skills.
Are you calling class 1 turret overpowered?
Quote:And no, the reason that there is no 700m/s GUN version of the Debilitator is, according to Blodo, that it makes the 4.0 700m/s weapon versions too powerful. So why in the nine hells we'd have a TURRET version of this doesn't compute. BW ship users don't get to be the exception. They can fill that turretslot with one of their own hullbusters if they want to keep weaponspeeds sync'd.
We all know about Blodo's balancing skills.
Are you calling class 1 turret overpowered?
And we all know his balance is ok and not a job everyone could do
![[Image: smuggler-threat-0-1.jpg]](http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x57/UrsusMorologus/Freelancer%20Discovery/smuggler-threat-0-1.jpg)
![[Image: jaycloud.png]](http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4479/jaycloud.png)
