Wrong idded ships

[Tibbles]

two kinds of fun

there is the fun you create and let others participate at

and there is the fun you have at the expense of others

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Couldn't be more agreed, and people from the first group is leaving disco cause people from the second group *sighs*

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[tothebonezone]

... oh for the love of... A -Zoner- IFF'd Outcast? Seriously, do we REALLY need to rephack everything to +0.7 max to stop this kind of idiocy?

Yes, please.

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[Knjaz]

one might argue that a pirate should have the same ambitions.... to cloak their Intentions from long range scanners - hence appear as a "harmless target" - and only rise the jolly roger at point blank range - aka scanner range. especially a pirate in a slow capital ship might be interested in maximizing his/her survivability.

if it starts to harm others though - it should not be done. - and the sad conclusion is that we keep nerfing the generic stuff - at the cost of players who actually play the generic stuff. - so that the generic stuff becomes so unattractive that no one in their right mind would use it.

... oh for the love of... A -Zoner- IFF'd Outcast? Seriously, do we REALLY need to rephack everything to +0.7 max to stop this kind of idiocy?

But really, how much IFF's can be used both ways, to make your lawful/unlawful character look like unlawful/lawful, respectively?
So far, only Zoners and Junkers come to mind. Freelancer IFF was always double-edged, most of the others have rephacks towards lawful/unlawful factions.

Might as well rule it out, that Zoner (and Junker?) IFFs are for certain ID's only, or something similiar - i.e., working around only those problematic IFFs.

[Pancakes]

... oh for the love of... A -Zoner- IFF'd Outcast? Seriously, do we REALLY need to rephack everything to +0.7 max to stop this kind of idiocy?

IFF based tech nerfs, we were supposed to have that, why dont we?

Fation doesnt like you using their stuff? FR5 and your nerf increases.

Actually these two (with a small tweak) combined aren't that a bad idea for a matter of fact. Quite a point to consider.

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[Thyrzul]

As far as I know, IFF has to match ID unless the ID is a generic one. If the IFF doesn't match the non-generic ID, the person in question may be subject to sanctions. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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[Visivicous]

As far as I know, IFF has to match ID unless the ID is a generic one. If the IFF doesn't match the non-generic ID, the person in question may be subject to sanctions. Correct me if I'm wrong.

This was always my understanding, and it is how I run my characters. Non-standard characters get SRP, which is what I thought that was for.

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[Timmy]

As far as I know, IFF has to match ID unless the ID is a generic one. If the IFF doesn't match the non-generic ID, the person in question may be subject to sanctions. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The thing is, I can't find that rule any more.

[sindroms]

I vaguely remember something about that rule being related to Pirate IDs. Not anymore, though. Anyway, my understanding about the ID and IFF is that the combinations themselves allow for a more varid roleplay. The ships are a matter of debate, since as previously noted, some ID/ship combos can lead to odd results as the formentioned zoner outcasts and unlawful bottlenoses.

The thing is, though, there is that we used to fly any combo until the technology chart was introduced, making it sanctionable to have any out of ordinary combinations like that. It was done because of the problems mentioned above. However, the reason that we have technerfs now is because people missed the freedom and thought that the server population might rely more on ingame consequences rather than rule-related ones.

Remember we used to have zoner BW transports flying around with salamanca turrets because transport ones were shait? Yeah, we shot those. Because they were obviously friendly with the corsairs.




Point here is that you have all the means to stop these people. BHG can issue a decleration to shoot down all non BHG bottlenoses, or, even better, collaborate with the house navy to make them illegal in house space.

Same with Zoners. The Outcast factions seem pretty forward with those problems- ''they give you trouble, shoot them, we don't care.''

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[Thyrzul]

As far as I know, IFF has to match ID unless the ID is a generic one. If the IFF doesn't match the non-generic ID, the person in question may be subject to sanctions. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The thing is, I can't find that rule any more.

Sadly neither can I, so an admin comment on this would be appreciated.

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[AeternusDoleo]

''they give you trouble, shoot them, we don't care.''

Doesn't this sum up 99% of Disco's diplomacy?

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From a time when all seems lost, from a dead man to a world, without restraint, unafraid and free.

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