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Proposal: ID changes for 4.87
Offline belarusich
05-25-2013, 03:15 PM,
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Molly ID:

Quote:- Cannot ally with any lawfuls except against Bretonia lawfuls or Corsairs.

WHAT?!

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Offline Rodnas
05-26-2013, 12:14 PM,
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(05-25-2013, 03:15 PM)belarusich Wrote: Molly ID:

Quote:- Cannot ally with any lawfuls except against Bretonia lawfuls or Corsairs.

WHAT?!

Thouse double/triple/quadruple crossing Mollys!! Dancing on every wedding - seriously though i guess it is a rather funny typo...

Mollys should be able to ally up with their gallic friends and that's about it. I doubt any self respecting, unbribable and proud Breton would ally up with them anymore...

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Offline Pinko
05-26-2013, 12:42 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-26-2013, 12:47 PM by Pinko.)
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Add the Unione Corse as combat targets of Solar Engineering, unless the lore of Hypnotainments were changed.

Add to the Unione Corse description that they also are the engineers of Hypnotainments, by illegally modifying Holo-tainments, which creates animosity between it and Solar Engineering.
Offline AeternusDoleo
05-27-2013, 03:49 AM,
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Updated. Tried to make the IDs a little easier to read. Also tweaked Xeno and Maquis ID again, more or less back to what they are now. Other minor changes here and there.

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Offline GrnRaptor
05-27-2013, 04:36 AM,
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House X Police ID Wrote:- Can attack unlawfuls, quasilawfuls and ships which belong to a house or organisation considered hostile by HOUSE X within their Zone of Influence.
- Can attack unlawful and quasilawful ships in proximity to a trade lane.

Isn't this second line redundant and potentially open to abuse?

Also, I still haven't heard back about the Ellesmere thing in the LN/LSF ID, though I'm glad to see the important parts of Bretonia opened up to LN ZoI. Requoting below.

Quote:Liberty Navy/Liberty Security Force IDs Wrote:- Can engage and destroy any ships within Alaska, Ellesmere or the Zone-21 Minefield system that do not belong to either the LSF or Liberty Navy.

I thought Ellesmere was the LSF Guard system, and given the server rules that LSF had every right to blow up anything there anyway, much as LN does with Virginia. Will these systems no longer be considered Guard systems such that we need this included, and if so, why not include Virginia in this line? If Ellesmere/Virginia are guard systems then this seems redundant.

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Offline AeternusDoleo
05-27-2013, 09:11 AM,
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I don't see the point of referencing Ellesmere. It's a Liberty system heavily influenced by the LSF. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Offline Croft
05-27-2013, 09:20 AM,
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(05-24-2013, 01:34 PM)AeternusDoleo Wrote: - Coalition ID "They are considered enemies by all five houses..."
If the Hispanics had stuck together instead of fragmented, they could have been House Hispania. But no, neither the Outcasts nor the Corsairs are a house according to server rules. This part stays as is.

I'm guessing Gallia is stuck firmly as the elephant in the room rather than a House.

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Offline Rodnas
05-27-2013, 10:17 AM,
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Short question on the
"may attack alll ships except transports" line for most of the Pirate-ish IDs-

Does that mean i have to pirate Hans Sauerkraut, hessian and blood diamond smuggler par excellence and if he accepts i have to let him go?
Normally i would shoot the guy without giving him a way out, but now i have the choice of giving a fulfillable demand and let him go or giving him a unfulfillable one and opening myself up to a possible pvp abuse sanction.
I sure understand the intention of that line, but there are 1-2 "superspecial" exceptions where you really want to kill a transport and not pirate it and still remain fully inRP.
So a possibility would be to add "May attack every ship that carries Cardamine, Blood diamonds( and Slaves)" to the Corsair ID for example...

Thoughts?

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Offline Pinko
05-27-2013, 12:42 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-27-2013, 12:51 PM by Pinko.)
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Quote:Solar Engineering

Solar Engineering is a Gallic corporation focusing on high-tech industries. Solar is rumored to have ties with criminal factions such as the Brigands and Unione Corse. Solar generally does not operate outside of Gallic space.

Solar Engineering having ties within the Corse?

Epernon base description Wrote:Epernon Base also serves the Corse as the main distribution hub for hypnotainment bands. Since, apparently, hypno bands are exclusively produced from Solar Engineering holotainment bands that have had their security and safety algorithms hacked, rather than being directly manufactured by the Corse, their 'production' does not require an extensive manufacturing capability, but can be produced by skilled Corse hackers working in relatively small quarters. While this also ought to allow the Corse to relocate their production operation between stations with ease, or even conduct them aboard transports or possibly even freighters, the physical distribution network for hypnotainment bands remains centered at Epernon for unknown reasons. This has led to numerous attempts by Solar Engineering to locate and infiltrate the Corse' hypnotainment production operation, since it threatens the safe reputation and profits of their holotainment product line, but so far the Corse claim that these efforts have all been thwarted without the Gallic authorities or Solar learning the location of the facility.

Solar has initiated political maneuvers designed to pressure the Gallic Royal Navy to conduct extensive interdiction in the Orleans system, where it knows that hypnotainment band distribution is based, but so far these political methods have failed to result in significant Naval action that threatens Epernon, and the Corse remain confident of the security of the base. Corse claim that their hidden influence in the government protects them, but some suspect that GMS or EFL do not desire the authorities to make too much progress in efforts to combat hypnotainment band traffiking, since it somewhat discredits Solar's safety claims and disrupts the company's financial security.

We're jeopardizing and ruining the reputation of the whole Corporation. I don't think those are 'ties'.

If anything, we have ties to the GMS in regards to captured Sirian ore. Ties to the ELF are unecessary as the Maquis already supply us with fuel (through their own ELF ties, ironically enough).
Offline belarusich
05-27-2013, 01:45 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-27-2013, 02:04 PM by belarusich.)
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Quote:Pilot carrying this lawful ID is an employee of Republican Shipping who:

- Can engage in piracy against GMS, IMG, Daumann and Kruger within the Taus and the Omegas only.

Something wrong. Or not?


GMG ID:
Quote:Omicron, Alpha
need fix i think)

BHG Core ID:

Quote:Core members are not mercenaries and may not hunt bounties.

- Can fulfill lawful bounty and escort contracts, and treat transports as combat targets when executing a bounty or escort contract against them.

where is the true?


Also, Order won't now fly in Alaska?

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