SRP BS = 500 mill+500 mill(price of BS itself)+time to rep+guns+armor(max: 895 millions)+possible cloak\JD.
Now count Lib dread with cloak, BS scanner, CAU8+500 millions...
I play at disco for 6 month and I barely have 1.5 billions(600 millions appeared from air by the way, not from traiding...)+LSC+fighters about 100 millions summary price...
Now lets think, how much will I spend for playing to have... 3 BSes?
(06-23-2013, 08:15 PM)belarusich Wrote: SRP BS = 500 mill+500 mill(price of BS itself)+time to rep+guns+armor(max: 895 millions)+possible cloak\JD.
Now count Lib dread with cloak, BS scanner, CAU8+500 millions...
I play at disco for 6 month and I barely have 1.5 billions(600 millions appeared from air by the way, not from traiding...)+LSC+fighters about 100 millions summary price...
Now lets think, how much will I spend for playing to have... 3 BSes?
I never said you'd have to do the SRP like you have to do now.
SRP isn't definitive, it's a term.
You'd just have to ask for permission.
(06-23-2013, 08:21 PM)Anaximander Wrote: And who should be the gatekeepers if not admins?
Skypelancer ftw?
So admins should be gatekeepers? Skypelancer ftw!
EDIT: Or rather wait 2 months before someone actually reads your application. It goes both for factions and admins.
(04-23-2013, 11:29 AM)Echo 7-7 Wrote: When "roleplay" around you seems to be diminishing... all you can do is be a new beacon of roleplay to light up everyone else's interactions.
(06-23-2013, 04:14 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: Solutions:
-Make caps SRP'd. People can't go and buy them freely, they have to request them via the official faction. So basically, they have to learn to play the game properly or gtfo.
Problem with the solution:
-Indies basically give the middle finger and leave because they can't get their cap. Server activity decreases, Disco is doomed.
1. Disco won't be doomed, new players will come and they will need to learn RP from beginning, and when you learn that way you learn good.
2. No more lolwuts.
3. No more lolwuts in caps (worse ones).
4. Real indies won't leave, they will just SRP'd caps.
5. More fun, since i won't be shoot by morons flying caps, without a warning.
6. Yes, some players will leave, but if they are here just for flying caps and destroying everyones game, then let them leave, we don't need them.
7. You don't need to join faction to get a cap, just SRP'd, make them like you and get one of those big ships...even more RP
8. Since this is RP server (smile), there are too many lolwuts in caps, and i think this is great idea, just make them hard to get...
Everyone hates those players... where is the problem with them gone? There are also servers that wont need a SRP let them play there then. Also your argument with the 3 BS was just... ridiculous. Three Battleships... why does one need to play three high ranked militaries? I dont feel with players who cant do that anymore.
Meh Caps need buff especially vs snubs,especially battleships.
Then just add small dead penalties and fuel usage and increase repair costs x5.
People are lolwuts because they have too much freedoms to lolwut around, if they need to consider their fuel usage and consider that they are not immortal they would act otherwise.
One play in the way that the current server/balance/rules allow him, if none stops him to field 3 battleships then good for him and his group if he can do so, at the same logic none stops you to field 4 dual nova heavy bombers and kill them all, why the hate?
The game is too caring and nothing happens when you die, nothing happens when you get damaged..
Cannon proposed the fuel usage about 2-3 years ago and the same community went against him so he dropped the idea.
So the same people that does not like battleships wont like to pay for fuel on their snubs or to rebuy their codes when they die as well.
Simple and logical balance restrictions can fix all the problems. All players should have fun, no matter in what kind of ship. Caps ships were always joke at this server,especially the 4.86 ones are so tragic joke with mega nerfed guns and working novas, people that are complaining about it are also fun. I cannot even remember last time when capship killed me, it is at least 6-7 months time, while in 4.85 I as cap nub managed to kill 3-5 snubs in Osiris each time when I logged in Gamma and die at the same rate in snub, 4.85 BS missiles combined with 4.85 BS razors and Solaris were really effective anti-snub guns, not the current nerfed water pistols. 4,85 BS missiles were so fun that 2 battleships with 2 missiles each targeting different parts of the ally attacked by bombers battleship managed to kill once 5 bombers with 4 missiles at one volley because the missiles ignited each other creating really huge explosion zone if fired right.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
(06-23-2013, 09:30 PM)Skorak Wrote: Everyone hates those players... where is the problem with them gone? There are also servers that wont need a SRP let them play there then. Also your argument with the 3 BS was just... ridiculous. Three Battleships... why does one need to play three high ranked militaries? I dont feel with players who cant do that anymore.
It's not that the players are trying to keep them here, the admins/devs want them here.
This basically leads to where we are now, the constant babying of newbie players who ruin the fun for the more established players.