Sometimes you gotta feed the trolls, given that most of them are adults .. -_-
Yes that outburst really kicked people, atleast the place is active now.
Honestly... You may not like my opinion. but i'll share it as it is feedback, i will try to keep it as constructive as possible.
Personally: I do not like your current Role-play at the moment, Zoner Wars...Screwing up diplomacy with literally almost every faction you run into. Flying a Neph Fleet and letting people who say: [name withheld]: We are at war no rp any more. fly them. seems quite unacceptable. locking down o -74 and other things. it just doesn't look to good.
Not trying to be rude but there is a serious amount of lawls syndrome in the faction at the moment.
Infact it seems to me you are bordering having your faction deleted.
My suggestion: stop the zoner wars its completely out of RP with the ID and the rules, try to repair your current diplomacy, down size the amount of capital ships you fly into battle, address rule breaker's inside your faction with strict punishment as the more sanctions that go on your members really degrades your factions reputation in general. advice don't give capital ships to everyone.
Although your faction brings Action in to the Omicrons i feel you are doing it the wrong way as, most action is happening out of
pure hatred of your factions actions, people will think your faction is as infested as the LNS- at times.
agreeing with whoever said this: don't respond to every thread directed to zoners in general people will prolly troll your faction.
Do what you gotta do with your faction your the leader.
EDIT: It's not that i hate your faction, I just don't like whats currently happening with it. I feel you could make it much better.
also i suggest you don't have the base guarding the o-74 jh shooting people, it's really annoying to almost everyone
Good job, let the wars continue. Your reputation can't get any worse anyways.
I believe this is a perfect example of exploit/abuse of the game mechanics regarding PoBs, and why should they be changed as soon as possible... through regulation, change of mechanics or removal, Admins and Devs, it's your call.
While the ZA is a bit of an extreme way to showcase the aggressiveness Zoners might have, I don't find it too outrageous the way you behave in roleplay. However, the approach everyone else is taking towards you is nothing short of disgusting, turning you into a punching bag for little to no real reasons. Because you're yet another unofficial Zoner faction? Probably. I can't really identify their true attention, I only know everyone just decides to go ahead and shoot you because "everyone else is doing it". Couldn't be more unsporting.
As a side note, I'd like to have a chat with a ZA member on Skype, preferably a high ranking one. Contact dodge848 if you please.
Here's my question - are Official Factions allowed to enforce their RP on unofficial factions with the same ID?
- If yes, then the current Zoner war is completely justified, and I think ZA is doing a great job making their own RP. That being said, I'm also eager to see it come to a conclusion if for no other reason than it has drawn the attention to literally half the server, and the rest of the place is dead.
-If no, then Phoenix (I think they are the Official Zoners on the server) and any other Zoner group attacking ZA should be sanctioned and Bastilled for violating their ID if it does state that they cannot attack other Zoners.
(06-25-2013, 05:57 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: -If no, then Phoenix (I think they are the Official Zoners on the server) and any other Zoner group attacking ZA should be sanctioned and Bastilled for violating their ID if it does state that they cannot attack other Zoners.
At last! Zoners May only defend fellow zoners. They could inRP provoke some shooting maybe, but thats all. Neutrallity They can within the lore barely sustain.. But Thats for another topic. This is a feedback.
About the za They Made mistakes in the past. Some bad rp decisions for example and some others used it in a way for their advantage. I Am not going to point fingers. But what Potter Harry said is sadly true. People are targeting some group (Bully em around) because others do the Same. (Skypefriends mostly) i have seen some abusing their bs ships with afk shooting some base. Even destroyed some and They where just after 30 min back. It proves That Its just a combination of people who tries to make some mess or maybe even in the end try to gain something from it.
I can imagine That due to such things some player like i have seen On An signature On the forums let him at some point say. No more RP. Keep Bully someone for some time at the end he/she Will fight back and do not care about anything anymore.
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<This seems like fun place to be- a lot of people shooting at you and stuff.
Where one can sign in the ZA?
Do you have shared ships?
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
Well I am no longer in the group but I do help them here and there, its easier when you're in the middle, but the lads visit here every so often so I would urge to contact them, If the admins see fit they can close this.
To be honest, It's not fair, the robots themselves in RL know that they have started this crap, but when I said during my days with the group that we will play along with this "war" I never thougth it would go this far. If those pests had any decency and compasion they would gang the ais, and with good reasons too, but go and convince them inrp that its not the ZA's fault, it will be easier to get a trip to the moon.
Edit : It doesn't matter, I've already uploaded about 50 images of baseless oorp and pure rl bullying and it only took 1 visit from hawk to make em stop this none-sense
(06-25-2013, 05:57 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: Here's my question - are Official Factions allowed to enforce their RP on unofficial factions with the same ID?
- If yes, then the current Zoner war is completely justified, and I think ZA is doing a great job making their own RP. That being said, I'm also eager to see it come to a conclusion if for no other reason than it has drawn the attention to literally half the server, and the rest of the place is dead.
-If no, then Phoenix (I think they are the Official Zoners on the server) and any other Zoner group attacking ZA should be sanctioned and Bastilled for violating their ID if it does state that they cannot attack other Zoners.
Quote:4.7 Official player factions have authority over players of the same NPC affiliation, as long as RP justification is provided. This authority applies in forums and in-game, and applies to player faction diplomacy, and strategic and tactical direction. However, exercise of that authority, on the forums and in game, is restricted to official faction members with the rank of the official faction leader and one rank below him/her. The authority may be exercised through the use of in-game in-RP orders, which, if not obeyed, can result in in-game in-RP consequences (arrest, court martial, and even "lethal" force in extreme circumstances). Official player factions cannot, under any cicrumstances, require another player to follow non-canon RP if that player doesn't want to.
Here is your answer.
In fact, I believe that this rule would have allowed the Phoenix to end the whole madness without it getting this far, and I think it is only their kindness that allowed ZA to continue the flow of their ignorant actions. Since ages it is the first occasion I think this rule could actually be useful.