Not fair at all

[Durandal]

There is nothing unfair about having to assume that space is dangerous, and that people do not have your best interests in mind, regardless of the IFF they choose to display. That being said, I'm not entirely sure why the guy was trying to get a Rogue to pay him for assisting. He's a pirate himself, not a merc or 'lancer.

[Agmen of Eladesor]

Imagine a new player he just got a transport hes happy he makes a few runs then gets pirated so he pays up as a smart idea pirate says he can go than pirate cds him again and asks for him to drop his cargo new player is like the hell with this i gave u 3m already he trys escaping and pirate keeps cding so new player turns the guns on the pirate bomber and trys to kill it the new player dies after maybe 3 minutes and is pissed at the outragesness he desides to leave or desides to try again same thing happens a situation like that.

At some point or another back in the history of Disco and the forums - it came down that you can only successfully pirate once per encounter. So while it technically may be acceptable under the rules - being a douche is still unacceptable.

Note that if the trader takes the same route back, it's a new encounter, and he's free to be pirated again.

Also note that Xeno's are not your usual pirate, so if you're messing with a Xeno, he's within his rights to rob you, shoot your cargo, and then shoot you as well because he's a Xeno. But generic (and other) pirates - one time only per encounter.

Funny thing is, the navy bomber didn't even give a notice of engage. Just started to shoot as soon as it appeared. So it was totally like, "All RP'in an such, all was OK until the silly pirate bomber!" like Johnnyboy said. Sucks that the navy had to die afterwards, totally unfairly.

That would be covered under the common sense thing of undocking in the middle of a combat zone, where active shooting is ALREADY taking place. Regardless of whether there was a line of RP, "Oh, crap, here comes another one" or not - you popped out into someplace active combat was happening. It happens - you can't (and shouldn't) expect much, if any, RP at that point.

(Example from history - BHG|Core making a big raid on Toledo. Order Ossies undock from Isis while we're already shooting at other Ossies. We blow him up. He complained we didn't RP with him. Really? We're already SHOOTING at the Isis AND his mates. Get over yourself.)

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[Tutashkhia]

Nothing wrong in it.

[Thyrzul]

Clear now?, the question is: WHEN a ship can join in a started combat??

Aaaaaaanytime as long as his ID allows it, and either provided sufficient amount of RP (and time to respond) or got shot at. His ID allowed it, he provided sufficient amount of RP (and time to respond), thus he could join in the started combat. Clear now?

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[LunaticOnTheGrass]

Clear now?, the question is: WHEN a ship can join in a started combat??

Personally when I join a started combat, I like to have my character say to the group I'm going to attack "Disengage at once or we will be forced to open fire".

It provides the possibility for feedback from the other side, a clearly understood warning before engaging in PvP, and it's much better than just saying "engaging".

[SummerMcLovin]

Some roleplay has to take place before an engagement (unless in a few cases like with the indy Nomad ID starting one), there does not have to be a reply (simply time for one, to prevent ambushes). If this were not the case, silent powertraders would be immune to piracy and effectively anyone can avoid interaction by not interacting.

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Colonial Republic
Independent Miners Guild
Ex-Admin

[Govedo13]

The thing is that the Pirat ID cannot collect bounties. Cannot also help the roug since it is not the same affiliation, he can maximally rob you and if you refuse engage you.
If you are comfortable to fight 3 v single rouge and call this fair... then
You get panicked when you need to fight 3 v 2 ? Then pay the man next time, or make friends so you can fair gank more fair and efficient.
Well is always the option to whine in the forum and loosing people time with your casual game play problems,it is indeed more easy one compared to learning how to fly ships.
Admins and Mods are also slipping this could get closed at page 1 since the guy got his answer instead of generalizing around stuff at 5 pages, not even to mention the author understanding of "fair" .

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Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)