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Well, I know that on other roleplay communities in the past, faction leadership has had control of their subforums and could moderate it to their hearts content, but if you messed up with it while doing it they'd set you straight real fast.
Personally I'd love it just because a lot of the stuff in [LN] is made by members who haven't played for [insert number of years here] which makes it a little awkward to deal with.
If this was just for making posts invisible I would think it might be an ok idea. But the forum used to (I assume it still does) allow for editing of other people posts, and this is not logged. In my time as a player/mod/faction leader/admin I have seen faction leaders do the most terrible and devious things here. When I think back to the real abuses that I saw in my time, really it was always faction leaders committing them. I don't trust faction leaders not to change posts and then hold it against people so they can get their way. At the end of the day, I don't trust faction leaders enough to give them more power to try to screw over other people.
(04-07-2015, 07:46 AM)Zelot Wrote: If this was just for making posts invisible I would think it might be an ok idea. But the forum used to (I assume it still does) allow for editing of other people posts, and this is not logged. In my time as a player/mod/faction leader/admin I have seen faction leaders do the most terrible and devious things here. When I think back to the real abuses that I saw in my time, really it was always faction leaders committing them. I don't trust faction leaders not to change posts and then hold it against people so they can get their way. At the end of the day, I don't trust faction leaders enough to give them more power to try to screw over other people.
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Quote:If this was just for making posts invisible I would think it might be an ok idea. But the forum used to (I assume it still does) allow for editing of other people posts, and this is not logged
They are logged now after a few events that recently happened.
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(04-07-2015, 07:46 AM)Zelot Wrote: If this was just for making posts invisible I would think it might be an ok idea. But the forum used to (I assume it still does) allow for editing of other people posts, and this is not logged. In my time as a player/mod/faction leader/admin I have seen faction leaders do the most terrible and devious things here. When I think back to the real abuses that I saw in my time, really it was always faction leaders committing them. I don't trust faction leaders not to change posts and then hold it against people so they can get their way. At the end of the day, I don't trust faction leaders enough to give them more power to try to screw over other people.
Whoever does this is an idiot and doesn't deserve to be a faction leader. Besides, we're talking about only being able to edit posts and threads within the faction subforum, not the entire forums - a situation like this would be rather difficult to come by, in all honesty.
Still, it should be (and is) logged, so any powerhungry rampaging faction leader can be kept in check.
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Honestly, like I said, the only people they'd be able to screw over is their own faction. The easiest thing to do would be to lay out a charter stating what can and can't be done, i.e.:
DO:
Use the tools for administrative purposes.
DO NOT:
Use it for editing RP posts without the permission of the owner.
Violating the charter gets your rights permanently stripped - one strike, zero tolerance. If edits are logged, that makes it even easier to rollback changes. I don't know how things are done here, but on another site that I moderate, clicking on the 'edited by' tagline on the post will give you selectable post versions for comparison. Someone will admin permissions can then revert changes back to an earlier version. Even if that functionality isn't currently in use, there should be a plugin that can enable it.
A moderator successfully rolled back/reverted an experimental edit I made to this post earlier on, and confirmed it was logged. The system works! Hooray!
(04-15-2015, 12:03 PM)SpaceTime Wrote: In fact Das Wilde Wesen has already moderator access on the Wild sub-forum. I guess it's only fair if other official factions receive it too.
For the sake of transparency, Das Wilde Wesen is me. I have no additional rights because the Wesen account is a moderator of that subforum, and was only using it for testing to see what the pros and cons of this idea were from a user perspective.