Kudos for the typing roleplay in O7 when Kruger| ships were mining in the "IMG" fields while we were active there, too. I think this type of provocations are what that conflict would be like. And as one of your guys seems to have misunderstood: the accusation that Kurger is provoking was said by Julia, and was an irp statement. No oorp. Oorply, I find it a pretty interesting move and do not feel provoked at all as a player.
An hour later, it would have been cooler if the Kruger| fighters had taken the offer of a fair 3vs3 instead of staying in the killing zone of the base. Consequently no fight took place and the Sair raid logged off, as you guys were the only contacts left in Omegas after the O3 and Cambridge fighting was done. With fair/even fights harder and harder to find (bc fewer players and capspam everywhere), I would have enjoyed a 3vs3 fighters-only fight.
Oh and: perhaps somehow rerep that unarmored (beginner?) Hegemon that was almost killed by the IMG satelite. I imagine it is a new guy. "No-docking rephack"-white should keep the NPC-satelite from engaging him. I assume it would be more fun for him to mine if he was not shot at by IMG NPCs and satelites.
(11-30-2014, 05:14 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: An hour later, it would have been cooler if the Kruger| fighters had taken the offer of a fair 3vs3 instead of staying in the killing zone of the base. Consequently no fight took place and the Sair raid logged off, as you guys were the only contacts left in Omegas after the O3 and Cambridge fighting was done. With fair/even fights harder and harder to find (bc fewer players and capspam everywhere), I would have enjoyed a 3vs3 fighters-only fight.
After some time i took off from disco (like 2 or 3 weeks) i started to play and found my friends in the kruger faction mining. I joined them and I logged my miner. after some minings together with a hegemon i wanted to do a mission or whatever. When i docked and relogged and then undocked again. 2 corsairs were there, now they were agressive and one claimed for us so me and a hegemon to pay instantly or get shot. I choose the latter one and the hegemon managed to dock and remained on the station. While i was shooting these 2 corsairs 2/3 more corsairs arrived and 1 more kruger to assist me. (the hegemon remained the whole time on the station) so it was 2 kruger vs 4/5 corsairs.. i had not a real problem with that.. UNTILL you arrived and brought even a Battleship with full solaris along with you. Fairplay jack, you can claim us to stay near a base.. but don't forget to mention it all. If one of the kruger leads want more info on it. i have made some vids/pics during this encounter.
Have a good day
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I offered a fair 3 vs 3, after it became obvious that the Corsairs responded in much larger numbers. That happens. Normally, Rheinlanders respond fast and have Cruisers and GBs there fast. So I offered a 3 vs 3 in roleplay:
Quote:[30.11.2014 16:39:41] Arcelia.Chavez[TBH]: 3 fighters vs. 3 of yours.
[30.11.2014 16:39:45] Arcelia.Chavez[TBH]: What do you say?
[30.11.2014 16:40:02] Kruger|Beta-58: you see 3 fighters here? i guess you need glasses
[30.11.2014 16:40:17] Arcelia.Chavez[TBH]: If you are only going to hug your base... we will be limiting our forces to 3.
[30.11.2014 16:40:21] Santos.Benitez[TBH]: You disrepecting my brother.
[30.11.2014 16:40:22] Kruger|Beta-58: it was just 4/5 sairs vs 2.. wonder what you like with odds
[30.11.2014 16:40:30] Arcelia.Chavez[TBH]: As I said: 3 vs 3 it will be.
As the Kruger|s did not trust my offer, and one of them went in green and insulted me:
Quote:[30.11.2014 16:41:30] Kruger|Beta-58: // always same with you. or arent you jack?
[30.11.2014 16:41:41] Kruger|Beta-58: // jack.. captain gank ^^
[30.11.2014 16:41:42] Arcelia.Chavez[TBH]: //what is your problem? Offered a nice fight
[30.11.2014 16:41:51] Arcelia.Chavez[TBH]: //3vs3.
It became clear that an oorp player-player agreement would have to be made to make the one player understand that it was an offer of a fair 3 vs 3, even though more Corsairs were present. So I did that.
Quote:30.11.2014 16:42:00] Arcelia.Chavez[TBH]: //come and let us shoot. It's a space shooter
[30.11.2014 16:42:08] Arcelia.Chavez[TBH]: //I offer, oorply promising: 3 vs 3
[30.11.2014 16:42:16] Arcelia.Chavez[TBH]: //still you will not take the offer.
[30.11.2014 16:42:19] Kruger|Beta-58: // and the bs then? also fair? yeah right
[30.11.2014 16:42:26] Arcelia.Chavez[TBH]: //3 fighters against 3 fighters
[30.11.2014 16:42:30] Arcelia.Chavez[TBH]: //that is the offer
So... that's the facts.
Would have really enjoyed having a 3 vs 3. That's all I feedbacked, Emile.
I know what you mean jack, but how you want to do a 3 vs 3 in Omega 7? When anyone just can hop in? It is not conn, but basically with the amount of corsair ships and with that corsair battleship along the Kruger base. The defense would only make sure the battleship would be from the fight. I think it is most armed to resist big ships. I have to admit i pirated several times near that station myself. And then i was alone, even i managed to survive and destroy the miner who thought he was completely safe because of the base. (I had to see if it was entirely true what you all claim.) Even the Wilde did do this a number of times, with 3 or 4 of them. Now you were there with a big corsair force, but you can only talk bad now because of these turrets? It would have made it a even fight.
Honestly Jack, i am not going to discuss it further. We might maybe make some nice event out of it? Something of a Omega 7 war? rheinland vs corsairs/hessians or anything else who can tag along? but that is not something for a feedback. I hope you can understand.
I wish you a good day/evening and I am signing off for tonight.
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Dodging insta-killing base turrets that are hidden in the nebula, while 3 fighters hug the base and later complain about "gank!" (if they lose) or boast "u suck" (if they win)... sorry, no.
That's not my idea of what fun is.
I promised oorply I would keep the fight 3vs3. That's all I can do.
Your side sadly did not agree. So we went away and logged off. This will not change, as hugging armed PoBs is a 100 % activity killer. No one can be bothered with things that are that silly.
Well we just had a bit of a thing with one of your pilots (Kruger|KMS-Erfrut). While we don't care if we have altercations with other factions I just wanted to bring to your factions leadership the issues with this encounter. For perspective our ships have IMG ID/IFF we RP that we are different but I understand official factions only caring about IDs so moving on.
Our ship was in Omega-11 passing through to Omega-9 which it did notify your pilot about. After some minor bickering between our ships and the DHC- which was with your ship also bickering with us (which we have no problem with) your ship chose to engage ours. Again we have no issues with fighting especially as it is usually good RP (we fight a bit with the crimson cross) but your ship pursued a fleeing ship (which never returned fire) into Omega-9 kept firing even within the NFZ of star spaceport (Yeah you might get in trouble for that) and even pursued our ship all the way to omega-5 jumphole.
Now you might be thinking what is the problem with this well the problem is nowhere is it listed in your ID that you can attack IMG ships on sight only that you can pirate them seeing as no demands were made (other then "Stop for a chat" as both ships kept firing on ours.) by your pilot or the DHC- pilot this is a bit of an issue. This time I will not be reporting the issue as I feel you should have the fair chance to bring this up with your faction members as maybe they are new but I just wanted to say it was rather poor form from an official faction.
Can I ask why you need 3 Solaris gbs (that run to hug a core 5 pob in a mining feild when slightly damaged) to pile on 2 RHA bombers? And why they all join with /1 lines of RP?
Quote:[25.01.2016 21:57:41] Klaus.Wegge: stop your vessel kruger
[25.01.2016 21:57:59] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: Sorry I had my comms off
[25.01.2016 21:58:22] Klaus.Wegge: That is fine, may i know you direction in this system?
[25.01.2016 21:58:23] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: What do you want Hessian
[25.01.2016 21:58:27] [RHA]Anna:Heinrich: Guten Abend.
[25.01.2016 21:58:33] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: The way I was headed
[25.01.2016 21:59:02] Klaus.Wegge: Do not play smart with me, you are a bunch of corrupt rheinlanders.
[25.01.2016 21:59:09] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: Why thank you
[25.01.2016 21:59:22] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: Now what is it you REALLY want?
[25.01.2016 21:59:25] [RHA]Anna:Heinrich: Corrupt, not caring about their underpayed employees.
[25.01.2016 21:59:30] Klaus.Wegge: I am impressed you do not even deny it..
[25.01.2016 22:00:03] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: I only joined because I got payed to dump ore at random locations
[25.01.2016 22:00:06] Klaus.Wegge: I would like 3 millions as a donation to our cause.
[25.01.2016 22:00:15] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: As you wish
[25.01.2016 22:00:25] [RHA]Anna:Heinrich: Gut, then you deal with me.
[25.01.2016 22:00:36] Klaus.Wegge: He paid
[25.01.2016 22:00:39] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: Ok what does the other hessian want
[25.01.2016 22:00:46] [RHA]Anna:Heinrich: 7 million in donation.
[25.01.2016 22:00:59] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: Rather expensive for a empty transport
[25.01.2016 22:01:04] [RHA]Anna:Heinrich: If you were carrying diamonds it would be higher, so dont complain.
Isn't this a bit greedy of you? If my information is correct, you are the Anna Heinrich. Empty transports to ask 7 millions from is rather harsh is it not? I do not even mention you to dual pirate with someone else so he had to pay in total 10 millions for being empty.
To come back to your comment, you came there with a cruiser and yourself. That the situation changes over time with losses and people logging in and out is not something you can blame towards a group, just to individuals like yourself and others who log in with reading skypechats or any other tool to ask for assistance. According to my information it was only 1 gunboat and when others came they let you go didn't they?
Quote:[25.01.2016 21:57:41] Klaus.Wegge: stop your vessel kruger
[25.01.2016 21:57:59] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: Sorry I had my comms off
[25.01.2016 21:58:22] Klaus.Wegge: That is fine, may i know you direction in this system?
[25.01.2016 21:58:23] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: What do you want Hessian
[25.01.2016 21:58:27] [RHA]Anna:Heinrich: Guten Abend.
[25.01.2016 21:58:33] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: The way I was headed
[25.01.2016 21:59:02] Klaus.Wegge: Do not play smart with me, you are a bunch of corrupt rheinlanders.
[25.01.2016 21:59:09] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: Why thank you
[25.01.2016 21:59:22] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: Now what is it you REALLY want?
[25.01.2016 21:59:25] [RHA]Anna:Heinrich: Corrupt, not caring about their underpayed employees.
[25.01.2016 21:59:30] Klaus.Wegge: I am impressed you do not even deny it..
[25.01.2016 22:00:03] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: I only joined because I got payed to dump ore at random locations
[25.01.2016 22:00:06] Klaus.Wegge: I would like 3 millions as a donation to our cause.
[25.01.2016 22:00:15] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: As you wish
[25.01.2016 22:00:25] [RHA]Anna:Heinrich: Gut, then you deal with me.
[25.01.2016 22:00:36] Klaus.Wegge: He paid
[25.01.2016 22:00:39] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: Ok what does the other hessian want
[25.01.2016 22:00:46] [RHA]Anna:Heinrich: 7 million in donation.
[25.01.2016 22:00:59] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: Rather expensive for a empty transport
[25.01.2016 22:01:04] [RHA]Anna:Heinrich: If you were carrying diamonds it would be higher, so dont complain.
Isn't this a bit greedy of you? If my information is correct, you are the Anna Heinrich. Empty transports to ask 7 millions from is rather harsh is it not? I do not even mention you to dual pirate with someone else so he had to pay in total 10 millions for being empty.
To come back to your comment, you came there with a cruiser and yourself. That the situation changes over time with losses and people logging in and out is not something you can blame towards a group, just to individuals like yourself and others who log in with reading skypechats or any other tool to ask for assistance. According to my information it was only 1 gunboat and when others came they let you go didn't they?
7 million really isnt that much considering your a trading faction that literaly does trading all the time.
the cruiser got piled on by another crusier and a battleship, and was there since you were hugging your lovely PoB with 90 weapons platforms.
there were 2 solaris orcas and 1 solaris bottlenose don't believe me?
Quote:[25.01.2016 21:57:41] Klaus.Wegge: stop your vessel kruger
[25.01.2016 21:57:59] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: Sorry I had my comms off
[25.01.2016 21:58:22] Klaus.Wegge: That is fine, may i know you direction in this system?
[25.01.2016 21:58:23] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: What do you want Hessian
[25.01.2016 21:58:27] [RHA]Anna:Heinrich: Guten Abend.
[25.01.2016 21:58:33] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: The way I was headed
[25.01.2016 21:59:02] Klaus.Wegge: Do not play smart with me, you are a bunch of corrupt rheinlanders.
[25.01.2016 21:59:09] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: Why thank you
[25.01.2016 21:59:22] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: Now what is it you REALLY want?
[25.01.2016 21:59:25] [RHA]Anna:Heinrich: Corrupt, not caring about their underpayed employees.
[25.01.2016 21:59:30] Klaus.Wegge: I am impressed you do not even deny it..
[25.01.2016 22:00:03] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: I only joined because I got payed to dump ore at random locations
[25.01.2016 22:00:06] Klaus.Wegge: I would like 3 millions as a donation to our cause.
[25.01.2016 22:00:15] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: As you wish
[25.01.2016 22:00:25] [RHA]Anna:Heinrich: Gut, then you deal with me.
[25.01.2016 22:00:36] Klaus.Wegge: He paid
[25.01.2016 22:00:39] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: Ok what does the other hessian want
[25.01.2016 22:00:46] [RHA]Anna:Heinrich: 7 million in donation.
[25.01.2016 22:00:59] Kruger|KMS-Stulingen: Rather expensive for a empty transport
[25.01.2016 22:01:04] [RHA]Anna:Heinrich: If you were carrying diamonds it would be higher, so dont complain.
Isn't this a bit greedy of you? If my information is correct, you are the Anna Heinrich. Empty transports to ask 7 millions from is rather harsh is it not? I do not even mention you to dual pirate with someone else so he had to pay in total 10 millions for being empty.
To come back to your comment, you came there with a cruiser and yourself. That the situation changes over time with losses and people logging in and out is not something you can blame towards a group, just to individuals like yourself and others who log in with reading skypechats or any other tool to ask for assistance. According to my information it was only 1 gunboat and when others came they let you go didn't they?
7 million really isnt that much considering your a trading faction that literaly does trading all the time.
the cruiser got piled on by another crusier and a battleship, and was there since you were hugging your lovely PoB with 90 weapons platforms.
there were 2 solaris orcas and 1 solaris bottlenose don't believe me?
Considering you sat there till they came and piled on you. Then you come here to complain about it? I didn't really expect much else from you Wesker. Also. How would you like it if you had a trade faction tag and someone came up to your transport and basically said 7millordie.