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Offline Shiki
10-18-2016, 04:44 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-18-2016, 04:45 PM by Shiki.)
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(10-18-2016, 04:38 PM)Thunderer Wrote: Imagine that you are a worker. One side feeds you, albeit poorly. The other destroyed your friend's workplace last week. Perhaps your friend too. On whose side would you be?

I am just trying to point out that there are better ways to win a revolution than with sheer force.

Bolsheviks are experts in winning the revolutions and they won't agree with you. Your mistake is that you are implying that workers are happy with the corporations, but in revolituonary situation that you have in Rheinland, they aren't. People can be really poor and still work on a die-hard mining operations, because they don't have other choice. On the other hand you have populist left propaganda, that is showing who your enemy is. And, of crouse, promising you the best future. Excuse me, but if workers movement grown into what Hessians are today, then it indicates about the serious problems.

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Offline Mímir
10-18-2016, 04:49 PM,
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Well maybe this army isn't all that occupied with an ongoing popularity-contest but mainly concerns itself with making sure that corporations do not get a foothold within their territory.

The concept of winning "hearts and minds" is relatively new, only the US & friends try to do it, or so they say, and it hasn't worked at all. It's not the truth that is the first casualty of war, it is civilians. Look at Iraq today... Daesh takes over, screws over the civilians. Anti-Daesh militias (backed by us in the west) defeat Daesh, then screws over the civilians. Amnesty just released a report about it, it's a pretty horrific read, but this is the nature of wars - it's only in fiction that you try to make friends with everything around you, sadly.

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Offline Thunderer
10-18-2016, 04:54 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-18-2016, 05:06 PM by Thunderer.)
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(10-18-2016, 04:41 PM)Wesker Wrote: Fear leads to submission. People hate corruption more than a revolution no matter how violent

This makes more sense. It also adds strength as a defining trait of the Movement. The current form of Rheinland's government has lost all the wars it's fought so far, so I doubt they look strong, and are thus unpopular. The RHA capitalizes on this, similarly as the Nazies did in post war, revanchist Germany. I like it as a player, but if I lived in Rheinland, I would probably support no one and emigrate.

Oh wait. There is war everywhere.

PS: Considering Sanja's comment, I am, among other things, indicating at the lack of Hessian propaganda. I have seen none so far, except if destroying bases is considered a sufficient propaganda.

PS2: For the record, I have just heard that some Kruger POB in some mining field I've never noticed before got popped recently. This has nothing to do with it.

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Offline Shiki
10-18-2016, 05:04 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-18-2016, 05:05 PM by Shiki.)
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(10-18-2016, 04:54 PM)Thunderer Wrote: PS: Considering Sanja's comment, I am, among other things, indicating at the lack of Hessian propaganda. I have seen none so far, except if destroying bases is considered a sufficient propaganda.

I am actually planning to work on this. I have some drafts already, but those need a lot of work still.

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Offline Demonic
10-18-2016, 05:11 PM,
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(10-18-2016, 04:43 PM)Wesker Wrote:
(10-18-2016, 04:41 PM)Demonic Wrote:
(10-18-2016, 04:32 PM)Lea Wrote:
(10-18-2016, 12:41 PM)Ruairi Wrote: but have you done any significant RP that doesn't involve destroying PoBs?

The guy that joined 3MAJ talking about RP. Go away kiddo.

If you have nothing constructive to say, shutt up and don't say anything. Personal insults are used by people who have no arguments and are just trying to drag the other guy down, so thay don't look that bad. Don't be that person, okay?

Hes not wrong tho
Yet that doesn't give him the right to bellitle others. This kind of behaviour even has it's own term, "Communication foul" and it only makes the communication harder. I believe you want your feedback thread clear and to the point, and not filled with negativity, no? Than don't feed it yourself.
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Offline Lea
10-18-2016, 05:12 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-18-2016, 05:12 PM by Lea.)
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(10-18-2016, 04:41 PM)Demonic Wrote:
(10-18-2016, 04:32 PM)Lea Wrote:
(10-18-2016, 12:41 PM)Ruairi Wrote: but have you done any significant RP that doesn't involve destroying PoBs?

The guy that joined 3MAJ talking about RP. Go away kiddo.

If you have nothing constructive to say, shutt up and don't say anything. Personal insults are used by people who have no arguments and are just trying to drag the other guy down, so thay don't look that bad. Don't be that person, okay?

The thing is I say what is on my mind and I am being honest. If you don't like it well...



I will tell what I think. RHA is right now. RHA is that Surgeon you know? So he basically removes the tumor that is currently in Omega 7 inside of the mining field. Why is that Surgeon removing it? Well because bad things should be exterminated / removed / destroyed. After the surgery the patient will live for a long long time without that bad thingy.

As for the "he did no RP, only POB pew pew" - I don't think so. If you used your free time to actually search for the RP RHA leader did instead of writing some nonsense text you could see that the message you wrote is ... bad? Yeah, bad and incorrect. I respect other's opinions I really do, you can hate, love, not like, like what he / she does, but if you're trying to make an argument at least get your facts straight. Please.

I will keep RPing with RHA, it's leader and members and I will have fun. So RHA, keep doing what you're doing and continue your RP.
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Offline Shush Muppet
10-18-2016, 05:13 PM,
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(10-18-2016, 04:41 PM)Wesker Wrote: Fear leads to submission. People hate corruption more than a revolution no matter how violent

Ah... what? Last I checked people were fine with just about any level of corruption so long as they stayed alive.

Which means an equation. Whichever side is more likely to protect their people more effectively from death gets the loyalty of the citizenry.

So if the RH make the mistake of going all-out brutality which ends up catching some citizens in the crossfire, any corrupt government worth their salt will use that against you to prevent more citizens from joining up.

You are giving the government the ability to feign that they are the good guys as you slowly become the very thing you are fighting.

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Offline Char Aznable
10-18-2016, 05:15 PM,
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Then RP this out instead of complaining ooRPly on their feedback.

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Offline Shush Muppet
10-18-2016, 05:19 PM,
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(10-18-2016, 05:15 PM)Char Aznable Wrote: Then RP this out instead of complaining ooRPly on their feedback.

Couldn't come up with a better argument, I assume...

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Offline Demonic
10-18-2016, 05:21 PM,
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(10-18-2016, 05:12 PM)Lea Wrote: The thing is I say what is on my mind and I am being honest. If you don't like it well...
I'm at best indifferent about your wievs on Rualri. What I don't like and it doesn't matter where I see it, is dragging people down instead of using arguments. I don't know wheter Rualri is or isn't a good RPer, but your posts tries to negate his argumets by disqualifiyng the person who said it and not your own aguments. You just feed the negativity.

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