Kid I'm playing here for more than a decade.
thruster, aim, (left/right|up/down), fire, thruster, cd, mine - repeat.
I'd contributed.
I was banned inf for some nasty behaviour by me.
My boys enhanced the particular faction RP.
My mod was changed.
We are here to have fun.
(11-15-2016, 01:54 AM)Wesker Wrote: Any and all complaints regarding the RHA official faction should be left in the RHA feedback thread. Thank you.
There we go again...
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread...pid1839248 -> http://imgur.com/fCfXban Powergaming a fleet you can't have, in my eyes. And even if you had this, it would be pretty stupid of of the Hessians to move all of it to O-7 just for a Kruger base, because this would give RM a chance to recapture Dresden, and the Corsairs to invade the Omegas. Your little action in O-7 should have RP consequences for your faction.
So you either balance your numbers in future or somebody else with do. This "I GANK U WITH +20 JORMS" story is happening way too often and already ruined the RP environment.
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread...4#pid43794 Rule violations because...
"- POB's built in non-House space that are bordering a House system, as listed below, are not allowed to be engaged for lack of payment, should one be issued."
And as far as i know this rule also applies to unlawful factions. You attacked Reutlingen due to the lack of payment twice. The second attack declaration is based one the RP of the first one.
(11-15-2016, 01:54 AM)Wesker Wrote: Is that why literally the entire community partook in the siege, it prolly did more harm than good too you. Making people mad? I'm pretty sure I got more praise than hate after the siege.
ooRP hate. As you said. The entire community partook. Hence i don't need to quote all the crappy skype comments/insults of yours, because they are already well known. Fact is, you didn't keep your hatred to yourself. I find it worrying that so many people partook in this siege and none of them did even realize it is wrong. Blinded through the hate, so to say.
This incident also showed clearly how wrong the current PoB concept is and how you can perfectly abuse grey areas within the rules to reach your goals. Years of hard work and billions of credits can be lost within just 10 minutes.
I'm curious to see your excuse, Wesker. Let it better be a good one.
(11-15-2016, 03:22 AM)SkyNet Wrote: There we go again...
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread...pid1839248 -> http://imgur.com/fCfXban Powergaming a fleet you can't have, in my eyes. And even if you had this, it would be pretty stupid of of the Hessians to move all of it to O-7 just for a Kruger base, because this would give RM a chance to recapture Dresden, and the Corsairs to invade the Omegas. Your little action in O-7 should have RP consequences for your faction.
So you either balance your numbers in future or somebody else with do. This "I GANK U WITH +20 JORMS" story is happening way too often and already ruined the RP environment.
First off, if its powergaming why haven't you made a report?
Secondly its not powergaming, inrp numbers are definetly not equal to ingame numbers. They never have been, the Core lined up 20 makos and took a screen of them before they charged and wiped out a fleet of corsairs and zoners. They used it as propaganda just as I am here. Does one propaganda comm spell out our entire inrp force? No, its for fun. I do propaganda of that sort after every major siege. Also what advantage do I have to gain from it? Why would I powergame something if I'm not getting anything out of it? The propaganda threads have never done anything to anyone. They're just there for propaganda for fun. But hey, a bad guy like me would never do anything for fun right?
Quote:http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread...4#pid43794 Rule violations because...
"- POB's built in non-House space that are bordering a House system, as listed below, are not allowed to be engaged for lack of payment, should one be issued."
And as far as i know this rule also applies to unlawful factions. You attacked Reutlingen due to the lack of payment twice. The second attack declaration is based one the RP of the first one.
Uh First off it doesn't apply to unlawfuls, why do you think this thread was made? It was so lawfuls would have more control over PoBs in the bordering systems and their own. Also, the demands in the original extortion comm weren't just monetary. I asked the defenses be lowered and docking rights allowed for all [RHA] vessels. Something every unlawful faction does when they extort bases heres some proof if you don't believe me.
The second decleration was not soley based off of the demands of the first, but I still have to evaluate on that in this thread so theres legitamacy. It'll be finished soon.
Also take note that if it was breaking the rules, especially against a PoB of Reutlingen's magnitude, I'd have been stopped before I could've done anything.
Quote:ooRP hate. As you said. The entire community partook. Hence i don't need to quote all the crappy skype comments/insults of yours, because they are already well known. Fact is, you didn't keep your hatred to yourself. I find it worrying that so many people partook in this siege and none of them did even realize it is wrong. Blinded through the hate, so to say.
This incident also showed clearly how wrong the current PoB concept is and how you can perfectly abuse grey areas within the rules to reach your goals. Years of hard work and billions of credits can be lost within just 10 minutes.
I'm curious to see your excuse, Wesker. Let it better be a good one.
Uh, the base was breaking the rules and the Kruger leader refused to do anything about it. If there's any oorp motive for people taking part aside from the inrp motive. That's it, and I'd say its warranted, at least IMG had the courtesy to move their PoB out of the mining field when the rule was implemented. But the Kruger decided to be selfish about it, can you really tell yourself its ok for someone to hog an entire mining field, one of 2 total in the omegas simply because they wanted it for themselves? It prevents pirate interactions and prevents other miners from mining there even Kruger indies. You're the only one here that finds it worrying, everyone else found the base and the refusal to act on it worrying, not the fact that it was destroyed.
Uh they moved all the cash off the base before it died............
(11-15-2016, 05:04 AM)Wesker Wrote: The second decleration was not soley based off of the demands of the first, but I still have to evaluate on that in this thread so theres legitamacy. It'll be finished soon.
What a way to get out under rules.
(11-15-2016, 05:04 AM)Wesker Wrote: Uh, the base was breaking the rules and the Kruger leader refused to do anything about it. If there's any oorp motive for people taking part aside from the inrp motive. That's it, and I'd say its warranted, at least IMG had the courtesy to move their PoB out of the mining field when the rule was implemented. But the Kruger decided to be selfish about it, can you really tell yourself its ok for someone to hog an entire mining field, one of 2 total in the omegas simply because they wanted it for themselves? It prevents pirate interactions and prevents other miners from mining there even Kruger indies. You're the only one here that finds it worrying, everyone else found the base and the refusal to act on it worrying, not the fact that it was destroyed.
And why do you think the admins were unable to move it? Because it was under the rules, you just want to play admin yourself by destroying a base completely ooRP. You even admit it once again, that it would not be destroyed if it was moved.
Fun fact however, we tried using it as a leverage to get actual development work done. I think you have to ask some of your development friends why that has not been done all this time? Another fun fact is that when we had a base OUTSIDE the field. Hessians funny destroyed it when there were no rules of engagement on bases. So we made it inside the field, where we even had a lot of hard times using barges at that time and you were trapped when sieging it because of the astroids. Not to mention RHA id had a free to engage line at that point toward kruger. You f1 in the mining field and logged in when we were online to mine.
So who should we blame for the base being in the field? You again as RHA leader? Or the trollish person you are and taking along with you?
@SkyNet @GamerGirl what about you two stop throwing dirt at wesker? If it was against rules admins would interfere before or during the siege. So just live with the fact that is the base is gone. Simple as that. I find that insulting eachother and drama pointless. Not gonna mention 2 or so other whole threads like that.
Reutlingen is not getting restored, Wesker is not getting Perma-banned, Kreuger will have to abide by current POB rules, and the community at large is over this entire thing.
There was a chance to resolve the problem with a compromise. But lo-and-behold, that wasn't good enough. It was the whole pie or nothing.
Well, you wound up with nothing. You can try to blame the RHA all you want and try to find grounds to play Sanctionlancer...
But be warned; you are doing more harm to Kreuger's reputation than the Hessians. The longer this drags on the farther your group will fall from grace. Have the decency to save what little of your reputation is left and move on with the game.
@Kruger
I swear, using faction account for personal attacks is probably one of the most dusgusting things that you can do in this game. Keep claiming that it was ooRP, when Kruger did some RP along with RHA on this siege sounds even somehow surrealistic. Most of the people (including me) came there just for fun, not because it was located in the mining field or something.