Royal Navy Foreign Legion - [RN]

[Royal Navy Foreign Legion]

I just have a question to address.

While you're taking the approach of being friendly to new factions, it doesn't make much sense roleplay-wise.

The Foreign Legion was historically something that all foreigners belonged to, volunteers or draftees from the Taus and Leeds. Unfortunately, since the thread has been nuked for a while, I can't link it - but it was still a concept that existed with GRN. The Foreign Legion always answered to the King and Royal Navy officers, and they weren't influential because of being mainly composed of foreigners.

My main issue/point is that RN seems to always take the option that goes against common sense and breaks perspective of what your faction is. Despite the fact that your faction description says that you are a division of GRN, your actions seem to appear as if you were a completely independent, not related to GRN or its diplomacy in any way.

Two examples come immediately to mind:

KSP offering joint training to the GRN - while every other GRN representative has shown skepticism to foreigners as is usual (especially to a police faction and not the government/navy), RN, going against the theme, has decided to agree to provide joint training for KSP, despite being in an all-scale war with multiple Houses, and even going as far as agreeing to provide GRN technology to it (which they deeply hold on to, to not lose the technology advantage to Sirians).

Asking the Zoners (and Sirians in general) to help with military supplying - The Zoners are historically hostile to GRN, iirc. They have never done anything nice to us besides shoot us in the Tau/Baffin systems. Note that while OSI/IRG are companies that were helpful before, but the average Zoner wasn't. They really should be treated skeptical at best.

Please don't get me wrong, I don't condemn your efforts in trying to promote activity, but is this the correct way to do it? Either your faction attitude or your faction lore needs to be altered to fit.

On a side note, please try to encourage more fair play - I've mostly seen needless ganks recently that left everyone feeling bitter.

Approaching Zoners like the IRG for supplies from Ames, was the right thing to do given the supplies were required for the now event Operation Ouruboros. Given the IRG are technology specialists and work confidentially with customers on their projects from a whole host of factions, I thought IRG could keep a secret which they did.

Opening the comm to all zoners was just an error on my part because Erzie was taking so long to reply.

BW

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[Royal Navy Foreign Legion]

For future information, IDF and EFL are the two main Shipping Corporations in Gallia.

EFL deal in Ship building and Fuel, whereas IDF is mainly a Shipping Corporation. These should have been your first port of call.

Both are Crown owned and therefore I was expecting them to take up the mantle, hence why GMS| held off for a few days.

You are right about this and we are planning to use Gallic Trading companies for future supply contracts, provided there are people there to respond.

We are also thinking of setting up an [RN] trading division for adhoc supplies also

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[Royal Navy Foreign Legion]

KSP offering joint training to the GRN - while every other GRN representative has shown skepticism to foreigners as is usual (especially to a police faction and not the government/navy), RN, going against the theme, has decided to agree to provide joint training for KSP, despite being in an all-scale war with multiple Houses, and even going as far as agreeing to provide GRN technology to it (which they deeply hold on to, to not lose the technology advantage to Sirians).

Please don't get me wrong, I don't condemn your efforts in trying to promote activity, but is this the correct way to do it? Either your faction attitude or your faction lore needs to be altered to fit.

On a side note, please try to encourage more fair play - I've mostly seen needless ganks recently that left everyone feeling bitter.

Hey in relation to these points you have made are very good:

We have tried to RP with the GRN| but as yet have not heard a peep from them either on Operation Ouruboros or other comms.

Since we are a foreign legion, of which the grunts are mainly sirians our methods are not exactly orthodox gallia no. But then again who would expect that from Legionnaires not of Gallic Custom.

Where other Gallic factions may see cooperation with Kusari as suspicious we see it as advantegeous. Given the loss Tau 44, our influence in the tau region has some what wained yet the taus are key to the Gallic supply lines. If they fall we fall, we dont want to be cut off now do we?

Thus having Kusari as an ally might prove useful in the future. Best to try incubate the eggs you know might hatch for you.




I think maybe our attitudes need to change a bit I dont doubt that but I feel our lore is unique. We are not just another GRN faction, avenues for RP are greatly enhanced when characters are of Sirian origin rather than being stiff blood xenomorph gallics.




We dont gank, only respond to as we have been treated.

The last few battles have seen wins through good team work rather than overpowering numbers!

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[Rusty Wing]

I think, that I can talk about my side at least. Well, about this little contract. It was opened for gallic civilians, not for sirians at all.

To: Gallic Metal Service, EFL Oil & Machinery, Transport divisions of military forces, gallic civilians

I think, that you have to check it again, Ramke.

And, actually, you can see, that it was forced necessity. I was waiting around three days to get nothing. What do you offer to do, when communty doesn't want to play, as GMS or EFL? And, actually, we were not going to work with all zoners at all. That's why there a blank with "The proof of good relations with the Kingdom of Gallia".
To sum up, I'm afraid, that this is your misunderstanding. I didn't make this contract for sirians at all, no. There were not any of "military supplies", just usual building materials. And no, we were going to work only with loyal zoners. And it was, as I said above, forced necessity.
Do you have something to say else?

I don't know, GMS and EFL responded and supplied what you requested...

I would consider anything that is being shipped to the military as "military supplies", but that's debatable I guess.

Additionally,

In connection with the acute shortage of resources, we decided to give this assignment to Zoners too.
Feel free to work with us, sirians.

kind of implies something else to me...

Anyway, I'm not going to debate it further and lead to another feedback drama or something, I just wanted to point it out.

Thanks for notice, Ramke. The part with zoners was retconned. I will be more careful with words in next time.

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[Royal Navy Foreign Legion]

Anyone have anything they would like to add? How are interactions going so far?

Do you get excited when you see a fleet of [RN] headed your way?

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[Shelco]

Your ranks seem unlogical to me, why would a Lieutenant be allowed to fly a battlecruiser?

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[Royal Navy Foreign Legion]

Your ranks seem unlogical illogical to me, why would a Lieutenant be allowed to fly a battlecruiser?

Hi Shelco, there is only one rank between sous lt and captaine / given capitaines can fly a battleship makes sense for lt to fly a battlecruiser.

There is no elitism in the RN unlike GRN, so I have kept things quite simple with the ranking and it works.

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[Sylvie557]

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread...pid1903543

I might be mistaken but it seems like you kicked someone out of the faction just because they were trying to diffuse an argument that was going nowhere. Seems pretty low for a faction going for officialdom if that is the case. If I am getting it wrong feel free to let me know.

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[Royal Navy Foreign Legion]

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread...pid1903543

I might be mistaken but it seems like you kicked someone out of the faction just because they were trying to diffuse an argument that was going nowhere. Seems pretty low for a faction going for officialdom if that is the case. If I am getting it wrong feel free to let me know.

Hi Loki, there is nothing low about it.

In fact, a whole string of failures behind the scenes both inRP and ooRP formed into a culmination that lead to this decision.

Continued lack of regards for orders to have ships ready in Leeds to assist in system defense. Making up excuses as to why the 3ic has herself been parked in Kusari rather than Leeds of which was being used as the excuse not to return to Leeds.

Attempted power grab of a 2ic position because they thought they were better suited to the role than the current 2ic. Regardless of the fact that the current 2ic has had a much bigger in-game presence than the 3ic who hardly ever logged at all. Because their char was in Kusari!?

Also slagging off other members when infact they do the same things wrong.

I wont tolerate that kind of toxic membership. Better to let the free-radicals be free.

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[Rusty Wing]

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread...pid1903543

I might be mistaken but it seems like you kicked someone out of the faction just because they were trying to diffuse an argument that was going nowhere. Seems pretty low for a faction going for officialdom if that is the case. If I am getting it wrong feel free to let me know.

Hi Loki, there is nothing low about it.

In fact, a whole string of failures behind the scenes both inRP and ooRP formed into a culmination that lead to this decision.

Continued lack of regards for orders to have ships ready in Leeds to assist in system defense. Making up excuses as to why the 3ic has herself been parked in Kusari rather than Leeds of which was being used as the excuse not to return to Leeds.

Attempted power grab of a 2ic position because they thought they were better suited to the role than the current 2ic. Regardless of the fact that the current 2ic has had a much bigger in-game presence than the 3ic who hardly ever logged at all. Because their char was in Kusari!?

Also slagging off other members when infact they do the same things wrong.

I wont tolerate that kind of toxic membership. Better to let the free-radicals be free.

Black Widow, please, be honest at least.

In fact, a whole string of failures behind the scenes both inRP and ooRP formed into a culmination that lead to this decision.

I'm curious, what are you talking about? I did a lot for your faction. Too much. All this graphics are mine, by the way, can you don't use them, please? I started the RP with KSP. I tried to do something, except "Pew-pew in Leeds". And idea to open communication to zoners was your idea. And it was fail, you know? Please, don't lie at least.
I can really list how much I've done, but you will continue your lie, anyway.

Continued lack of regards for orders to have ships ready in Leeds to assist in system defense. Making up excuses as to why the 3ic has herself been parked in Kusari rather than Leeds of which was being used as the excuse not to return to Leeds.

It has RP-sense, because we were roleplaying with KSP. You asked me about creating character and I did it.

Attempted power grab of a 2ic position because they thought they were better suited to the role than the current 2ic. Regardless of the fact that the current 2ic has had a much bigger in-game presence than the 3ic who hardly ever logged at all. Because their char was in Kusari!?

Yes. Because, as you said, our current 2iC is 2iC just because he was your first recruit. He didn't do something for it. But I did. It was unfair.

Also slagging off other members when infact they do the same things wrong.

Just asked about adding details in the bio-section of application.

Stop lying, please. You can blame me for a lot. But not that I was a bad assistant for the faction.
In fact, I can say the reason why I'm fired. This was said directly in private messages.
But I hope that this person will stop lying or I will do it. This completely deprives you of the chance to become an official faction.

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