What you are referring to is the Confederacy, which was by all means neutral to Sirius, even to Bretonia and Liberty. This was pointed out in Haste's reply.
To reiterate what he said, the Confederacy maintained a neutral stance, but after the war with Kusari accepted the Enclave back in its fold and created the Gallic Union, which is made up at large of Enclave (read: former Royalists) leading a military dictatorship. This is the present status quo.
Disco development could use a feedback thread of its own, dumping all the dev feedback into admin feedback thread seems very unnecessary since admins have nothing to do with the course of development.
UPD: Devs could also use a community manager - someone who would serve as a messenger between the dev team and the community, someone who would throw little teasers and news about the upcoming changes, someone who would process the feedback and answer it with utmost transparency. The lack of such communication between the devs and the community has been an ever present issue here, even though other game developing teams always had community managers.
(10-13-2023, 12:51 AM)Haste Wrote: This is a feature as most Discovery players would not receive a response from women.
(06-11-2023, 03:21 PM)Darius Wrote: What you are referring to is the Confederacy, which was by all means neutral to Sirius, even to Bretonia and Liberty. This was pointed out in Haste's reply.
To reiterate what he said, the Confederacy maintained a neutral stance, but after the war with Kusari accepted the Enclave back in its fold and created the Gallic Union, which is made up at large of Enclave (read: former Royalists) leading a military dictatorship. This is the present status quo.
Care to show any law snippet where Liberty civilians and Gallia civilians are banned from one another?
(06-11-2023, 03:21 PM)Darius Wrote: What you are referring to is the Confederacy, which was by all means neutral to Sirius, even to Bretonia and Liberty. This was pointed out in Haste's reply.
To reiterate what he said, the Confederacy maintained a neutral stance, but after the war with Kusari accepted the Enclave back in its fold and created the Gallic Union, which is made up at large of Enclave (read: former Royalists) leading a military dictatorship. This is the present status quo.
Care to show any law snippet where Liberty civilians and Gallia civilians are banned from one another?
I was told by Lemon several moons ago that the laws are being rewritten since at least a year, but the faction leaders involved can't get their sh*t together.
(06-11-2023, 03:23 PM)Chronicron Wrote: Disco development could use a feedback thread of its own, dumping all the dev feedback into admin feedback thread seems very unnecessary since admins have nothing to do with the course of development.
Yeah, the law snippet I'm going to point you towards is called reading lore. Instead of trying to find ways to be Very Comical and put in more largely useless information into the game, you should instead take a few hours to go and skim through the Gallic infocards.
If you don't want to do that, then allow me to summarize: Gallia has been a state hellbent on conquering Sirius for itself and attempted (failed) to do so while inflicting the largest atrocity in the history of humanity. This aside, the motives of the House to continue its war of conquest remain unchanged (otherwise they would not have accepted the Enclave back) and should be at the very least a warning sign to the other Houses.
Now, of course, I'm a human too. I understand that people don't want to do 20 pages worth of a thesis to justify their changes, but, as a former GalGov member that helped pretty much smoothen out the current Gallic environment, I can tell you with absolute confidence that there is no actual desire by the canon factions to make peace with any of the Houses of Sirius (with exception of Rheinland for obvious reasons). The scheming that's done to both increase ZOI of Navies and to create or at least put the foundation for a future alliance is bull crap that belongs in a Stellaris match or a X4 game, and not in Discovery's, or otherwise Freelancer's universe.
Furthermore, the points made by other individuals that refer to the time being somehow long make just as much (none) sense. We have factions that gave fought for decades if not centuries, 3 years in the grand scheme of things is absolutely nothing. I'm also going to take the opportunity to mention that, while Haste has certainly been a lot clearer on affairs regarding the voting, my experience with both Liberty and Gallic players present in their respective governments is that they neither care for the game nor want to put in some work to reflect a realistic shift in diplomacy by the standing two powers (aka Liberty and Gallia), but instead wish to simply seek ways to create more alliances similar in fashion to the Corsair - GRN cooperation, the BAF - GG tech share, etcetera.
My personal advice (thus not a developer stance) is to finally stop this absolutely god awful scheming behind closed doors and to attempt to play the game as is intended before we end up with respawn events and barge trading dominating the server.
You seem to be ignoring the context of the Sirian Houses having 800 years of peaceful - with the minor exemption of Rheinland waging war on a Kusari corporation - coexistence and Gallia being the big bad for virtually its entire existence. It has now welcomed the Enclave back into its militaristic dictatorship regime.
You linked story material from the period Gallia was under different leadership.
I will also remark that certain story elements were clearly rushed at the end of the Gallic war. Again, we're dealing with a setting of Houses that fled the Sol system because of war, vowing to never let such atrocities happen again. Relations with a warmongering, genocidal House would not warm up very quickly.
On the subject of things that were rushed: the Gallic Reunification unfortunately was not well-coordinated between the Developer and Admin teams at the time, leading to many last-minute changes. In hindsight, it would have been good to shift Gallic-Sirian rephacks back to nodock, but this was clearly overlooked.
(06-11-2023, 03:38 PM)Darius Wrote: Yeah, the law snippet I'm going to point you towards is called reading lore. Instead of trying to find ways to be Very Comical and put in more largely useless information into the game, you should instead take a few hours to go and skim through the Gallic infocards.
If you don't want to do that, then allow me to summarize: Gallia has been a state hellbent on conquering Sirius for itself and attempted (failed) to do so while inflicting the largest atrocity in the history of humanity. This aside, the motives of the House to continue its war of conquest remain unchanged (otherwise they would not have accepted the Enclave back) and should be at the very least a warning sign to the other Houses.
Now, of course, I'm a human too. I understand that people don't want to do 20 pages worth of a thesis to justify their changes, but, as a former GalGov member that helped pretty much smoothen out the current Gallic environment, I can tell you with absolute confidence that there is no actual desire by the canon factions to make peace with any of the Houses of Sirius (with exception of Rheinland for obvious reasons). The scheming that's done to both increase ZOI of Navies and to create or at least put the foundation for a future alliance is bull crap that belongs in a Stellaris match or a X4 game, and not in Discovery's, or otherwise Freelancer's universe.
Furthermore, the points made by other individuals that refer to the time being somehow long make just as much (none) sense. We have factions that gave fought for decades if not centuries, 3 years in the grand scheme of things is absolutely nothing. I'm also going to take the opportunity to mention that, while Haste has certainly been a lot clearer on affairs regarding the voting, my experience with both Liberty and Gallic players present in their respective governments is that they neither care for the game nor want to put in some work to reflect a realistic shift in diplomacy by the standing two powers (aka Liberty and Gallia), but instead wish to simply seek ways to create more alliances similar in fashion to the Corsair - GRN cooperation, the BAF - GG tech share, etcetera.
My personal advice (thus not a developer stance) is to finally stop this absolutely god awful scheming behind closed doors and to attempt to play the game as is intended before we end up with respawn events and barge trading dominating the server.
So wait, can we go against the story or not. Because on one hand, 3 years ago peace was forced upon Liberty and Gallia by devs. But now even some random request for better reputations was denied because it goes against story. Make up your mind for once and be consistent.
The peace wasn't forced, it was done in line with what happened at the time. Sirius hates the Gallic Royalists, not Councilmen that fought their war(s) for hundreds of years.
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(06-11-2023, 03:23 PM)Chronicron Wrote: UPD: Devs could also use a community manager - someone who would serve as a messenger between the dev team and the community, someone who would throw little teasers and news about the upcoming changes, someone who would process the feedback and answer it with utmost transparency. The lack of such communication between the devs and the community has been an ever present issue here, even though other game developing teams always had community managers.
For what it's worth, I agree. Finding one isn't that trivial though.
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