' Wrote:I also find 60 or 70 M excessive, but nevertheless there is something true here. As a foreword, I'm a trader and I will talk about pirates vs traders. If you do not want to read all of the following, in short I'll try to show why pirates should raise their taxes, because paradoxically the whole economy and RP could benefit from it.
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Why all of this money ? Money is way too easy to earn, since it is purely virtual. I mean, the currency is not based on a finite amount of real resources like gold or platinium as RL economy (in theory) do : it is simply created out of nowhere when a trader sells its cargo. However there is no inflation, and although the market is flooded with more and more money its value never decreases. Like in a pre-1929 era, except that no market crash will occur in Disco.
Therefore, why should traders worry about piracy since their business never will be dramatically harmed ? Why would megacorporations engage economical war since there is enough money for everyone ? All in all, when everybody can successfully become rich to hundred of millions, do the money worth anything ?
IRL there are mecanisms preventing money to loose it's value, namely central banks. Basically they grab money out of the market and destroy it, so the value of the remaining money increases. Depending on the situation central banks raise or lower the taxes in order to keep the balance right. There is no central banks in Disco, but there is pirates. So let pirates raise or lower their taxes to keep the balance right, and in the current context I would say "raise".
If pirates raise taxes and money becomes harder to come by :
* players could not afford capital ships by themselves anymore, and only active factions could purchase one thanks to common share. This means less lonely lolwut flying BS bought by a single powertrader.
* pirates factions could have substancial incomes and could play full-time pirate RP instead of relying on secondary powertrader characters.
* escort jobs for freelancers/mercs will eventuallly be more interesting since the threat justify such an investment.
* same argument for the police forces.
Now there are still open issues... if pirates regulate traders incomes, who will regulate the pirates ? However Disco economy is another subject.
To summary, taxes up to 30 M for the richests players are harsch but fair, if they were too cheap to hire an escort for 5 M.
1.I've said it before and I'll say it again, escorts are not easy to come by.
Plus as Elsdragon said even if you have got an escort the pirates will
just ignore the escorts and destroy the trader before they escape.
I've seen it happen many times.
2.I'll tell you this, try to pirate my trader for 30mil and and theres no
chance I'm paying up.
And I've never put a bounty on anyone ever.
But I'd make an exception for something like this.
Also everyone seems to assume a trader will only be pirated once per trip.
What with all the pirates on the server thats not alwys the case.
So thats another reason why asking for high amounts is not going to work.
So gaz 83, why you think if you are trading you MUST MAKE MONEY in that trip? Perhaps this time you went to damages, but next time will go into profits. Besides i really doubt that pirates take atelast 20 percent of overal trader income.
' Wrote:So gaz 83, why you think if you are trading you MUST MAKE MONEY in that trip? Perhaps this time you went to damages, but next time will go into profits. Besides i really doubt that pirates take atelast 20 percent of overal trader income.
*Sigh* Heres the defintion of trading because you dont seem to understand.
v. traded, trading, trades
v.intr.
1. To engage in buying and selling for profit.
2. To make an exchange of one thing for another.
3. To be offered for sale.
4. To shop or buy regularly.
So what you are saying is traders shouldn't make money? but pirates should?
So if traders aren't supposed to make money, you tell me the real reason what trading is for then.
If your gonna play it this way, I'll fight fire with fire, If traders aren't suppose to make money. THEN WHY DO YOU THINK PIRATES HAVE TO MAKE MONEY?
There you go I even put it in caps, in the hope that you might actually understand it, but I doubt that.
' Wrote:why you think if you are trading you MUST MAKE MONEY in that trip?
Because, that's why most people trade. Even if they have excellent RP on their trader, they're still in it for profit. Remove that profit, and most traders won't cooperate with you. Let them make some money on that trip, and you're more likely to get RP from them.
' Wrote:Because, that's why most people trade. Even if they have excellent RP on their trader, they're still in it for profit. Remove that profit, and most traders won't cooperate with you. Let them make some money on that trip, and you're more likely to get RP from them.
The Sail thing is just a logo. And logos are simple, not fancy.
Yes but same goes for piracy. You pirate for profits too as well as for same rp. For cargo or for money. But the idea is the same. I understand that traders want to get rich, yes its the main objective. But sacraficing about 20~50 of your profits isin't that much. You still get money don't you?