Please someone can tell me who is BHG|Core-Elter, because he just made some OOC in system chat. Oh and dear bounty hunters, don't call us cowards just because you bring 100 capital ships and 50 gunboats versus only two bombers!
BHG|Core-Estal was the guy. Now, I don't think he was in the official faction because his RP was... bleargh... and I don't think you have such lolw... players in your faction. He allied with another... player that I chased half the system in his prison liner and then he docked... only to bring his "ubber cool" Mjolnir (Note that he was under engagement). Anyway... This Estal is flying a cruiser so it already was a very disproportional fight. 1 Mjolnir and 1 cruiser vs. a bomber. My backup arrived (varok in his bomber) and your guy here was starting to loose the fight. But guess what. Bounty hunters started to appear. First was a Bottlenose with huge lag (not in the BHG|). We said... what the hell. Let's finish the cruiser then we'll see. But wait... BHG| players start to appear. Now, I was expecting something else from a faction like this but... meh. Have you ever heard of fair fights? I don't think so...
Edit: I didn't die, neither did Varok so it's not a "point with the finger rage" after we got killed. Just... feedback...
From what I gleaned from talking to people there were two Outcast bombers in Omega 15 who said they were on their way to Omega 56, our guard system.
You mention problems with a player who changed ships (not a faction member) and one in a laggy gunship (also not a faction member). I will disregard these. I don't control every player in Omega 15.
Aside from that, your chief grievance seems to be that
a) Estal's roleplay isn't up to your standards
I can't say anything on this as you don't say what it was that he actually did or said.
b) BHG ships turned up and chased you out of Omega 15
I have little sympathy for you on this one. Having had our share of imbeciles camping our base, we don't generally facilitate people who turn up there looking for an easy kill. What did you expect? You could roam in, pick off a few people and float home?
c) We didn't give a fair fight
By which you mean you didn't win. You win some, you lose some. You chose to put yourself in that position.
' Wrote:From what I gleaned from talking to people there were two Outcast bombers in Omega 15 who said they were on their way to Omega 56, our guard system.
Incorrect. There were no OC players. It's true that I have a Falcata but that doesn't make me an OC. varok was... I don't recall what he was but he wasn't an OC. It is true that I said I will go and look at that system but I didn't jump there. I was just standing 1k from the hole. I was hoping for a nice RP with Estal, him being part of an official faction.
' Wrote:You mention problems with a player who changed ships (not a faction member) and one in a laggy gunship (also not a faction member). I will disregard these. I don't control every player in Omega 15.
They are not important. But they already outnumber us when your guys came in.
' Wrote:Aside from that, your chief grievance seems to be that
a) Estal's roleplay isn't up to your standards
I can't say anything on this as you don't say what it was that he actually did or said.
Like I said, I was expecting a nice role play chat with him but all I got was... "Leave this system in 3...2...1... Fire!". Not to mention that I first asked him what's in O56 so important that he protects... no answer. (I wish I could take some screens but my hands were on they keyboard/mouse, ready to dodge an insta-kill attempt from that player)
' Wrote:b) BHG ships turned up and chased you out of Omega 15
I have little sympathy for you on this one. Having had our share of imbeciles camping our base, we don't generally facilitate people who turn up there looking for an easy kill. What did you expect? You could roam in, pick off a few people and float home?
What can I say... immature reply? Well... I wasn't camping your base. Like I said, I chased that guy in his prison liner. After he docked I was on my way to leave when this BHG cruiser undocked and I saw RP opportunity. Seems I was wrong. Oh and... 1 cruiser+1 Mjolnir vs 1 bomber is easy kill? Maybe for the cruiser...
' Wrote:c) We didn't give a fair fight
By which you mean you didn't win. You win some, you lose some. You chose to put yourself in that position.
By which I mean it was an overkill. Oh and we didn't win... BHG didn't win either. InRP, the cruiser is heavly damaged by only 2 bombers. Not to mention the fuel and all that.
I bet he called for fighters on skype or something and the guys said: "Cool, let's fry those bombers. Easy kills!" Now you tell me, who's looking for easy kills?
But... it's your choice if you want to improve your members behavior and RP. I don't care if you do it or not. I have my RP line and I'll follow it. I will try to go around players like this in the future.
' Wrote:Please someone can tell me who is BHG|Core-Elter, because he just made some OOC in system chat. Oh and dear bounty hunters, don't call us cowards just because you bring 100 capital ships and 50 gunboats versus only two bombers!
Check the post above. Someone else saw fighters and a (laggy) gunship where you saw swarms of capital ships.
I suppose in future we should just let bombers take potshots at caps and order escorts to stay back.
Kinda contradicts what people have been saying about getting escorts.
' Wrote:Incorrect. There were no OC players. It's true that I have a Falcata but that doesn't make me an OC. varok was... I don't recall what he was but he wasn't an OC. It is true that I said I will go and look at that system but I didn't jump there. I was just standing 1k from the hole. I was hoping for a nice RP with Estal, him being part of an official faction.
They are not important. But they already outnumber us when your guys came in.
Like I said, I was expecting a nice role play chat with him but all I got was... "Leave this system in 3...2...1... Fire!". Not to mention that I first asked him what's in O56 so important that he protects... no answer. (I wish I could take some screens but my hands were on they keyboard/mouse, ready to dodge an insta-kill attempt from that player)
What can I say... immature reply? Well... I wasn't camping your base. Like I said, I chased that guy in his prison liner. After he docked I was on my way to leave when this BHG cruiser undocked and I saw RP opportunity. Seems I was wrong. Oh and... 1 cruiser+1 Mjolnir vs 1 bomber is easy kill? Maybe for the cruiser...
By which I mean it was an overkill. Oh and we didn't win... BHG didn't win either. InRP, the cruiser is heavly damaged by only 2 bombers. Not to mention the fuel and all that.
I bet he called for fighters on skype or something and the guys said: "Cool, let's fry those bombers. Easy kills!" Now you tell me, who's looking for easy kills?
But... it's your choice if you want to improve your members behavior and RP. I don't care if you do it or not. I have my RP line and I'll follow it. I will try to go around players like this in the future.
Thanks for reading,
Sandero, over and out...
You sat at the entrance to Omega 56 in a Falcata? Try a Thor or a Praetorian. Having chased a Prison Liner? What did you intend to do to the Liner? What roleplay opportunity were you looking for? You come to a secret system which houses our most important facilities and you get annoyed because you don't get invited for tea? You put yourself in a position where you knew that you would most likely get overpowered by enemy ships. You did that. We didn't. We responded as we respond to Hessian Cruiser outside our base, or Thor bombers. We launch suitable responses. One of our ships sees a Falcata, we launch fighters. It was fighters, right? Not the ludicrous capspam mentioned above.
Here's what I think. You came to Omega 15 looking for a fight and you got one and you're digging for something, anything, to throw at our faction. You don't fly under a faction tag so you don't have a feedback thread so I have to listen to your exaggerated complaints when you pretty clearly are annoyed although you wouldn't have posted this nonsense if you had killed all the ships in Omega 15.
Your complaint is hard to pin down. First it's OOC chat. Then it's using caps and gunboats against bombers. Then it's overkill using fighters. Then it's because the roleplay you got wasn't what you wanted.
Isn't using bombers against caps overkill? No, that's sensible.
This is for informed feedback. This isn't a kind of visible unofficial rules or "fairplay" violation thread. We roleplay a nasty bunch of people. I have as much sympathy for a Falcata at the entrance to Omega 56 as I do for a hunter in Crete orbit. Fair-play standards vary from person to person. I think following the rules as written and what we've done to capital ships as being the kind of steps I can live with to make as level a playing field between players as possible. That's what I call fair - adjusting the mechanics of the game to encourage co operation between players and make battles favour groups of varied ships over individuals or disorganised and smaller groups. I am not going to presume to tell players "Don't fire on him, it's not fair". It's a spaceship game. It's a violent game. But no players get hurt.
I don't see anything in what you've mentioned here that warrants any action against any of our members.
Athenian, I see that you are trying to defend your teammates, but unfortunately they are the "guilty" ones.
Sandero and I was trying to pirate a liner, when he run to your base docked while being engaged... Then a battlecruiser undocked (that was Estal) and asked my Salvager to leave. I left the area after a bit of foolish roleplay from his side. Sandero decided to stay there and annoy that battlecruiser. Shortly after I left, rikitiki appeared with a Mjolnir and engaged Sandero with the support of that BH Bc.
When Sandero told me about this I joined the fight with a Thor bomber and started to aim for the BC.He was heavly damaged but then a Legion| tagged Bottlenose shown up and engaged us. The fight was pretty hard for us now but we continued to shoot the BC. Shortly a horde of BH ships appeared on scanners and started to engage. We fled and headed to Faction Feedback section on the forums:laugh:to find out who was that lolw... hunter flying that Bc.
Now you are trying to defend them for their foolishness.
' Wrote:Athenian, I see that you are trying to defend your teammates, but unfortunately they are the "guilty" ones.
Sandero and I was trying to pirate a liner, when he run to your base docked while being engaged... Then a battlecruiser undocked (that was Estal) and asked my Salvager to leave. I left the area after a bit of foolish roleplay from his side. Sandero decided to stay there and annoy that battlecruiser. Shortly after I left, rikitiki appeared with a Mjolnir and engaged Sandero with the support of that BH Bc.
When Sandero told me about this I joined the fight with a Thor bomber and started to aim for the BC.He was heavly damaged but then a Legion| tagged Bottlenose shown up and engaged us. The fight was pretty hard for us now but we continued to shoot the BC. Shortly a horde of BH ships appeared on scanners and started to engage. We fled and headed to Faction Feedback section on the forums:laugh:to find out who was that lolw... hunter flying that Bc.
Now you are trying to defend them for their foolishness.
A horde? That's pretty different from your hysterical
Quote:you bring 100 capital ships and 50 gunboats versus only two bombers
You mention two ships that aren't part of our faction. Read the thread title before you post.
Your chief complaint is that you lost a fight. You have my sympathy. It must be difficult flying right next to an enemy faction's base, picking a fight and then having to run... because you get outnumbered.
It must have been scary, because you ran all the way here. To the forums. Not to report a rules violation. Or to offer constructive advice. Not even to say something good about any interaction with any other player here. No, you blundered your way in here to complain about others when your own intentions in game are laughably transparent.
And you post hysterical garbage including snide name calling. You both do it. I've made a note. Fling insults like that around here again at your own peril.
Sorry to deprive you of your cheap blue message. Maybe you should stick to single player and use a cheat.
It seems like we cannot get anywhere...
We came here to complain about Estal's roleplayer! It was horrible! And since he was flying a Bullhead I guess he have a high rank between BHs... I have no idea how he mananged to get that rank!
And you are still trying to defend your member that acted like a lolwutt and your other members that didn't heard of fair-play.
I see that you don't understand my goals so bye-bye...
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