you say your friendly with the GC you have cardimine on the contraband list, would this put you at war with the GC? And how would that work in your relationship to the Blood Dragons whom are allied with the GC. the Dragons see cardi as evil but maintain their alliance with the GC whom have cardi addiction as a membership requirement.
What I'm trying to say is that if you ally with the BD it would be problematic if you attacked a BD ally like the GC's for having cardimine on their ships. You should do something to specify your attitude towards the GC in terms of cardi. One idea is you could do a bretonian style and have a small amount be allowed for personal use.
Be quick,
Be efficient,
Be powerful,
The correct way to pirate
Closet Party @ Mar 9 2012, 11.12 PM Wrote:Blood Dragons isn't that active
Well we've had a few interactions with them and we've found that they are active from time to time.
Closet Party @ Mar 9 2012, 11.12 PM Wrote:Next, what the hell does Neon do that is bad? If you can provide me with an answer, I'd laugh and let it stay.
With regards to Neon its part of a business which helps fuel Kusari. It is used to power certainly items in the Kusari economy, so my leeching of that it is a key line in the Kusari trading economy.
Closet Party @ Mar 9 2012, 11.12 PM Wrote:Without metal ores, how are you going to build more stations or buildings or ships?
About metals yes they are important to us, but the one that we fine are only those either helping the Kusari economy. Your approach suggest that we simply 'remove' traders of their products and use them for our own accord, which is a possible idea but for now we are using the money we gain to have such resources smuggled to us.
Closet Party @ Mar 9 2012, 11.12 PM Wrote:Without H-Fuel you can't refuel ships. LULZ
Again its the same as with the metal ore, we'll use the money we gain from fining these vessels to purchase fuel for our ships.
Closet Party @ Mar 9 2012, 11.12 PM Wrote:For the military stuff, without it, you can't protect Kusari.
True but those vehicles would be used to work in favour of the current government and so draining their supply of military equipment will help.
Although you do bring up a good point, that a separate list could be created from items which should be confiscated straight off. Such as items like this which are so essential for the Kusari War effort.
I like the idea you mentioned of perhaps having certain types of cargo as 'confiscate only', similarly to the Synth pastes. Since certain items are too valuable to be received by these companies, and the current regime.
Diomedes
Diomedes @ Mar 10 2012, 1.08 AM Wrote:where it sold well.
Mhm, that is an important part of it, since if independent traders are infact working work large corporate companies, unless with regards to our allowed items, then we would be inclined to fine them. Although you are correct that it does very much depend on how well they tell their 'story', and whether they are believable or not which hopefully will get easier as we become more and more aware of the trading systems in Kusari.
Diomedes @ Mar 10 2012, 1.08 AM Wrote:Cargo space didn't matter.
With regards to that I was a bit confused since the larger the attempted shipment surely the more it goes against our current aim? Or were you perhaps just meaning that it didn't matter that they were traders only that they worked for a certain company?
Diomedes @ Mar 10 2012, 1.08 AM Wrote:If I saw a Samura fighter I went after it
Which would be an interesting idea, one which we do attempt on occasion, however with such limited resources were wary not to get drawn out into overly complicated conflicts.
Diomedes @ Mar 10 2012, 1.08 AM Wrote:Do give the info page an edit if you can
Of course, the info page is still a work in progress, and anything that can be done to make it easier to read we'll be sure to implement. The 'Code of Conduct' page specifically i know its quite an array of information.
Overall you bring up an important point that we should be more critical on corporate companies, perhaps not just focusing on their transports but also on their fighter wings. And also that the info page should be reviewed, which is something that I'll be looking straight into after posting this.
Friday
Friday @ Mar 10 2012, 3.25 AM Wrote:which Emperor are you talking about?
As was mentioned before the Assembly do not care 'whom' takes over only that it is one of 'divine blood'. Their main aim is to return back to the 'old/traditional way of life', one where blood holds sway.
The Kamida Assembly @ Mar 9 2012, 10.10 PM Wrote:They don't as such care 'whom' this Emperor is but more that he is of 'divine blood' - from a prominent blood line.
Friday @ Mar 10 2012, 3.25 AM Wrote:why not simply join the Dragons?
The Assembly do have an Alliance with the Dragons although we still remain an independent figure since there are certain views which we have which are not directly in the ideas of the Dragons, such as their uninvolved look of 'whom' the individual Emperor is.
Yerland
Yerland @ Mar 10 2012, 3.41 PM Wrote:ou say your friendly with the GC you have cardimine on the contraband list
The Assembly only respect the GC because of their good standing with the Blood Dragons. Similarly to the Dragons the Assembly do not want drugs roaming the streets of Kusari. Should a GC vessel be carrying it then they would likely hold back in removing it, but it is only because of their good standing with the Blood Dragons. Since the GC do in way work against the 'traditional views of Kusari' with men working as the leading figures.
Yerland @ Mar 10 2012, 3.41 PM Wrote:small amount be allowed for personal use.
Mhm.. a very nice idea. It would certainly reduce the issue as well as not compromising our relationship with the GC and by extension protecting our goals along side the Dragons.
You do bring up the point of how strictly we should view our contraband list though, since we may damage our position as 'looking for a better Kusari, if we only apply these rules to certain people. Although commodities such as Synth paste would be somewhat universal in their confiscation. Also the possible use of the Bretonian style which you mention could certainly come in handy - a simple yet elegant solution to the problem.
Everything I had in mind has already been dealt with, thus I shall just bring up a small discrepancy.
You guys are against Samura. I feel that the Hayabusa should be taken off the line of ships usable simply because it was a ship built by Samura. It wouldn't make sense for people who hate Samura to use Samura ships.
' Wrote:Everything I had in mind has already been dealt with, thus I shall just bring up a small discrepancy.
You guys are against Samura. I feel that the Hayabusa should be taken off the line of ships usable simply because it was a ship built by Samura. It wouldn't make sense for people who hate Samura to use Samura ships.
Indeed. The Hayabusa is build by Samura. But it is a civilian ship for the Sirius ship market after all (similar to the Renzu line). Unlike the Black Dragon or the Mamoru, also build by Samura. There is no reason why they shouldn`t use the Hayabusa.
' Wrote:You guys are against Samura. I feel that the Hayabusa should be taken off the line of ships usable simply because it was a ship built by Samura. It wouldn't make sense for people who hate Samura to use Samura ships.
We are against them true, although one thing to keep in mind is that many of the members who join the Assembly are often from a variety of backgrounds. Meaning that the ship variety is greatly varied.
As well as that Assembly will likely from time to time 'commender' ships, since actually producing ships is an expensive endeavour especially with their current stretch of resources. Buying 2nd hand ships is also not unheard of since it allows them a ship at a reduced price while also meaning that they do not have too openly approach big name sellers.
As far as hating them goes, with their current circumstances the Assembly has to make some sacrifices in order to do what needs to be done. They would rather pirate a Samura transport in a Samura built ship, than not be able to pirate it at all. Were it through and through Samura ship then this would indeed be different, as it would be a mark of dishonour but since it is a ship used by a variety of different people it is not as such insulting to them, most as another option.
Doesn't matter, since the Hayabusa was released for the Sirius-wide markets, the Kamida could perfectly use the ship to harm Samura's interests. Weapon turned against its creator, why not? Same applies for Dragons, as Omicron mentioned.
' Wrote:Target IDs and IFFs rather than cargo size and things will likely make more sense. This also opens up the ability for you to have supply ships bring you stuff in reasonable quantities without breaking your own guidelines.
I'll quote an example as the QCP (bretonian privateers) of "pirates" with a political agenda. When Bretonia was at War with Kusari, Kishiro and even more so Samura were obviously huge targets. I pretty much always stole all their cargo and sometimes fined on top. Any other tradeship who could convince me he wasn't dealing in Kusari and just passing though would usually get off with a small fine or nothing at all, depending how much I believed him and what was in his hold and where it sold well. Cargo space didn't matter. If I saw a Samura fighter I went after it (of course checking for player level).
This is the sort of approach I would like to see you take. Corporate or hostile ID? Yes, then wring them out. Not corporate or largely neutral? Then ease off.
We've been tossing this idea over, and were wondering if this approach would be more valid. Which option would you say I more effective for our cause,
- to fine corporate vessels to a reasonable level and let them keep their cargo,
- to confiscate their cargo and either let them go, or fine them mildly on top of the confiscation,
- or to simply destroy all corporate vessels outright?
The last two would help cut the flow of supplies to them, and possibly if we had some transports on hand could then transfer the useful items back to our allied bases and make use of them for uses all the way from ship creation to living commodities.
With the current system confiscation of cargo depends solely on what type of cargo is it.
The Kamida Assembly Wrote:
Confiscate Only Substances
These materials are considered to be to valuable to risk falling to enemy hands.
Should these be found on a trader they should be confiscated, and either taken to a nearby base allied to the Assembly, or destroyed.
Substances listed here, CANNOT be left unattended and so must be destroyed before leaving the area.
Miscellaneous:
Synth Foods - As Stated Below Under ''Synth Foods, Vessels / Commodities found on ships.''
Cardamine - If over 10 units
Military Materials:
Military Vehicles
Light Arms - If over 5 units.
Nuclear Devices Munitions
If it is one of these then they are confiscated straight off, where as other commodities can be fined if they are found to be either, to be taken to/from a large corporate business, or if it is in the hands of an employee owned by a large corporate business.
Possibly Kusari organisations should be treated harsher than others, since they were the ones who overthrew the previous Emperor?
In what way though that they should be harsh we have no idea, perhaps separate confiscations rules from them - or even just straight out destruction?
Any thoughts, or opinions, on any of the points expressed are as always appreciated.
I've just read through your wiki and info, honestly I've not learnt a thing about your factions goals, methods or reasoning. If you could, answer these following questions:
1.Why do you want an Emperor on the throne?
2.Why do you want to return to a more traditional way?
3. What traditional ways?
4. Why an Emperor would bring back such ways?
5. Who is this Emperor?
6. What are your plans to get said Emperor on the throne?
7. What methods are you going to use to acheive your plans?
8. Why are you not a political group?
9. Why piracy?
10. How does piracy help your goals?
No offence intended but it seems like this faction is just generic pirates with a weak RP on top to justify itself, everything is broad and vague without any clear reasoning behind it.
My advice, drop the "traditional ways" and "Emperor" nonsense and take a different route, perhaps a group that wants to encourage a more open Kusari, pirate in house firms in order for outside influences to enter?
Well the Kamida family want an Emperor restored for two main reasons. One if the Emperor is replaced, the idea of 'ruling by blood' will likely be caste aside and so the Kamida family would be danger of loosing their high status.
Two, the Assembly is a combination of people who believe that only men born into the position can rule and not corporate figures. As they often say they believe that the corporate figures are 'corrupt'.
2.Why do you want to return to a more traditional way?
Again it is a matter of honour, which is held very highly in Kusari. The Assembly considers the new regieme to be corrupt as it is not run by men who are of hereditary right.
3. What traditional ways?
Blood ruling, Emperor being born by blood and not by money. Lords holding more respect than a commoner, which is not the case since mere 'merchants' in their eyes are ruling Kusari.
4. Why an Emperor would bring back such ways?
The Emperor is already following those ways by simply ruling them...
5. Who is this Emperor?
As I have said twice before, the Assembly do not care 'whom' this new Emperor is only that he is one of 'divine blood'.
6. What are your plans to get said Emperor on the throne?
To attack the current regime and drain away at their resources, and consolidate our own strength until we are ready to make more definite strikes. To this end we have an Alliance with the Blood Dragons .
7. What methods are you going to use to acheive your plans?
Same as above. Gather power for the immediate future, get a feel for the where the regime is weakest at and when possible strike.
8. Why are you not a political group?
We are, however we are a militant political group. However by delving in politics it would involve the Kamida, a high status family to deal with the current leader of Kusari, who they consider commoners. With this idea they would consider it an insult to have to deal with such people as equals.
9. Why piracy?
We don't have the current strength or resources to make any direct assaults against the current regime and so piracy is the only action we can do since it allows us to not only to gain strength in the form of financial gain which can be put towards news ships and weaponry but also to diminish the gains of the current regime with regards to trading.
10. How does piracy help your goals?
As above.
With regards to your last comment we have values of whom we pirate, we only deal with large corporate companies and not independent traders. As is listed with the pirate able good, we do not simply pirate as commodities on the market, some are allowed (living cargo and natural foods) and some are to be confiscated since they are two valuable to fall into the hands of their enemies.
As i have also said before.. we are eager to be more than a simple pirate faction which is why we've thrown it up in this post. So that we can take advice on it and adjust it accordingly.
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