Thank you everyone for your replies, see that's what forums are for (one of the reasons), people can help you prevent a mistake before the mistake happens ^^
Quote:QUOTE(Montezuma. @ May 6 2010, 12:19 AM) *
I can just immagine the Xenos capturing the ship, getting lost in it, and eventually turning up at the bridge, then the leader saying something along the lines of; "Right boys, anyone know how to turn this thing on?"
In all seriousness, i dont think the Xenos would have the fuel to power a Cruiser, or the knowhow to fix one up and actually fly it, let alone the ability to actually fight in it. Though i must admit, it would be an entertaining sight.
"Duct tape and cardboard! That'll patch those holes"
"you can take ya mask off lads"
"ooooh dear thats no sea-"
I was thinking along the same lines when I was thinking about it LOL and all this while Corsairs and Red Hessians are fighting their war around them in Omega-5 LOL, even if we got the ship started, we'd have Corsairs AND Hessians hunting at us, unless they were to bussy killing each other that is, but if a HUGE ship like this suddenly starts moving again, people HAVE to see it, so that's like a suicide plan;)hehheheh (so we would have had to search it somewhere else:P)
Quote:Now Xenos. These guys are diffrent. They do not fight for money. They fight to protect things and ideas which they believe is right to protect. Even if it doesn't gives any profit for them. And it doesn't pays off neither it should.
Also, I really dislike the statments of yours, that you formed a new band, threw same rp lines like "Xenos fights for jobs" as a core rp concept and already ask for cruisser.
Saying xenos are fighting for jobs and to tell that your awere of their rp is same as I would say that corsairs needs food and it contains all the rp I need to play a corsair.
You want to know some things we say? Then I'll give you some of the texts we use:
"What is it that you value the most about your Liberty, good trader?"
player: *says something* "But those Liberties you speak up are not longer a part of the Libertonian thinking, each day foreign traders fly into Libertonian space, selling products at extreme low prices, making ANY competition for our own traders inpossible, every day new jobs open in Kusari, Bretonia and Rheinland where firms can produce things for lower prices, robbing our own good workers of jobs, every day one of our own traders goes bankrupt and do you know what all of this creates?"
*Player stays silent, thinking but not knowing what to say*
"It creates not the Nation Liberty, it creates the nation called Slavery. Liberty has become nothing more then a slave of foreign markets and our goverment is nothing more then whores and puppets used and played by foreign nations."
*Player really doesn't know what to say now and if they DO know what to say, they want to sign up at THIS point*
"We are but a necessary evil, we came to existance, because Liberty needs us to exist. Once this folly of madness has ended and Liberty is free once more and honest people who want to have a normel job can get a normel job, we shall vanish, for we Xenos would not be needed anymore. So aid us, help us make a better Liberty for all corruption like rogues and hackers and terrorists like ourselves came to existance because of a system that is wrong, because of people crying for help and that's why we're here, to answere that call of help. So support us, aid us, for how more people aid us, the sooner we shall vanish."
((that's just 1 example, but we use lots of lines, based on what people say back at us))
Quote:As a member of a Faction you'd likely be unfriendly with, I could support it, as long as it isn't used as an excuse to PVP.
We aren't Xenos Alliance members yet, but when I look at their titles, I act more like a 'Royale'. I spread propaganda and look for possible recruits, violence is only my last resort and when we (the crew) do get in a fight it's mostly because freelancers and bounty hunters see a million above each of our heads (lol), because of a trigger happy LPI or Navi person who doesn't want to listen to long sessions of RP or because of a trader who opens fire without roleplay (always funny:P) Owww and don't forget Lane Hackers, Rogues and Junkers because they think the area around Ourey Base is their turf ( ;) ). So it wouldn't have been used for PVP (unless other people attacked us first that is:P)
Quote:I could agree to it if you made it so that when it actually dies you lose it. Then at least you'll have to be veeeeeery careful with it, as you should with such a big valuable ship.
That would actually be a wonderfull idea ^^ To bad everyone in this topic will be hunting on it, so that isn't really an option LOL
So thank you everyone for your replies and sorry for asking such a stupid question:P
You can read this as rumours on the Xenos bases. We also have many spies in the prisons of Texas who help Xenos prisoners escape, etc. So the Xenos are much better organised then most people would belive them to be. To bad only Xenos know about this because only Xenos players can read these rumours:P
Quote:"But those Liberties you speak up are not longer a part of the Libertonian thinking, each day foreign traders fly into Libertonian space, selling products at extreme low prices, making ANY competition for our own traders inpossible, every day new jobs open in Kusari, Bretonia and Rheinland where firms can produce things for lower prices, robbing our own good workers of jobs, every day one of our own traders goes bankrupt and do you know what all of this creates?"
funny, I have read almost the same in Farmers Alliance rumors.
Only they are talking about bad guys from Liberty corporations.
Quote: <...> I spread propaganda and look for possible recruits, violence is only my last resort<...>
That's a bit of a problem how I stated before. You need to get grasp on xenos rp. They aren't intelectuals. Of course there is some people there, but their job is not propaganda. They already aren't in a stance to spread the propaganda.
If you care about propaganda part. There was Zapp's idea along with Tale's (if I remember correctly) for Liberty Populist Party. Well these guys could have been the propagandist, while having xenos as their strike group.
What about the Xenos' <strike>Mein Kampf</strike> Propaganda book I forgot the title of?
That's one individual. The group itself concentrates on violance based action. Book is propaganda for new recruits to pick up violance as a resort. Of course they are trying to make their own image a bit better in the eye of the public, but that is hypocrasy and they know it.
But it's not like the violance itself is the idea. They just fail to see any other alternative.
huh yet I'm sorry to speak about XA a bit. So I will hold from arguments here. Since they do their job as they see it. I compare Xenos with other hate groups. Since the background of xenos are amazingly same as some other ones.
Can trade and escort Xeno smugglers
Can demand cargo from any vessel.
Can fulfill bounty contracts against non-Liberty IDs
Cannot ally with any lawfuls except with Liberty lawfuls against non-Liberty pirate or military invasions
Cannot demand credits
Allowed ships: Fighters, Freighters <-- LOOK HERE
Carrying unmounted IDs in your ship, as well as not equipping an ID, is a serious crime.
But...Cruiser? From Rheinland? Well, i think if you'll make a part of RP about how you going to repair it, support with stuff, etc etc it can be SRPed, but, maybe better to think about Liberty Navy stuff?
Can trade and escort Xeno smugglers
Can demand cargo from any vessel.
Can fulfill bounty contracts against non-Liberty IDs
Cannot ally with any lawfuls except with Liberty lawfuls against non-Liberty pirate or military invasions
Cannot demand credits
Allowed ships: Fighters, Freighters <-- LOOK HERE
Carrying unmounted IDs in your ship, as well as not equipping an ID, is a serious crime.
But...Cruiser? From Rheinland? Well, i think if you'll make a part of RP about how you going to repair it, support with stuff, etc etc it can be SRPed, but, maybe better to think about Liberty Navy stuff?
' Wrote:That's a bit of a problem how I stated before. You need to get grasp on xenos rp. They aren't intelectuals. Of course there is some people there, but their job is not propaganda. They already aren't in a stance to spread the propaganda.
If you care about propaganda part. There was Zapp's idea along with Tale's (if I remember correctly) for Liberty Populist Party. Well these guys could have been the propagandist, while having xenos as their strike group.
That actually sounds like a very interesting idea ^^
' Wrote:That's one individual. The group itself concentrates on violance based action. Book is propaganda for new recruits to pick up violance as a resort. Of course they are trying to make their own image a bit better in the eye of the public, but that is hypocrasy and they know it.
But it's not like the violance itself is the idea. They just fail to see any other alternative.
huh yet I'm sorry to speak about XA a bit. So I will hold from arguments here. Since they do their job as they see it. I compare Xenos with other hate groups. Since the background of xenos are amazingly same as some other ones.
hmm Lets look at world history for a second, Hitler was veiwed as spreading propaganda and people veiwed him as a terrorist and othiers veiwed him as a god so that being said If the xenos hate liberty because of all that stuff mentioned above there is no reason they can't spread propaganda.... After all Alquida does it and there terrorists..... if anyone here is a member of alquida no hard feelings just how the most of the world veiws you
Edit: Notice how i spelt the terrorist organization wrong.