"Elite factions"

[Internity]

The community doesn't care about your faction, but about the content that your faction will exclusively use in .86, which is quite extensive. You can keep your faction, but we'd like to try out the stuff without having to join it. And that applies to the RoS, HF and SCRA as well.

I agree with you on this matter; same opinion. :nyam: :angry:
Indies are always left out, I bet that the indies won't be able to enjoy the full content of the upcoming 4.86 mod. Exactly same story with our current mod.

(sarcasm) There should be added another rule around here to sound like this : "Independent players MUST join a faction in order to have access to special and unique 'things' of this this mod".

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LNS Ithaca

[Wraga]

[font=Century Gothic]Well...after reading the answers and before the lock about offenses, I would like to point on the main question. There were a lot of interesting and usefull answers and discussions, but I still dont understand this "invite only, my friends friend is ok, but noboy else stuff"..., and no, I'm not interested in weapons, ships, etc. I'm interested in equality what harms if we dont let anybody to play as he want to. I understand that, there are some lolwuts who could make problems, but they can do as a navy or a pirate character.

So basically, I still feel this "elitist" stuff on the server, what wont harm me, just so sad to feel it in a community. [color=#FFFFFF]We have admins and players...I think thats the most important thing what everybody have to keep in mind. Admins and EQUAL players.

Anyway, thanks for the answers folks.

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[Hone]

Never change your avatar!

On topic I think there is some merit to having non-vanilla factions without indies - they made them, so there is reason they should say who can join.

But I think all vanilla factions should have the same joining policy.

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[teschy]

On topic I think there is some merit to having non-vanilla factions without indies - they made them, so there is reason they should say who can join.

Who's they? The players may have written the story, but everything else was implemented by the devs. Gallia isn't a vanilla house, yet you don't see Igiss privatizing all the factions.

Besides, just because you open the NPC faction to indies, doesn't mean the player faction dissolves.

[Hone]

Hey I only said some merit, I'm just saying both sides have a point. And I wasnt really talking about Gallia anyway, as that kinda is a vanilla faction - france was in star lancer alliance, its part of FL lore.

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[Govedo13]

Besides, just because you open the NPC faction to indies, doesn't mean the player faction dissolves.

The questioned faction leaders wont be able to sleep well if they loose their "imaginary power" in 10 years old space shooter game?
Now it is time to throw at me 1323141 "RP arguments" why this is impossible.
In the opinion of many people most of this factions will dissolve if they were open-use. Why? The people will make unofficial ones and will have more members then the official ones... and I wont tell you why......

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Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

[Ayem]

I can just imagine it now. [Avengers]Wild. [XTF]Phantoms. [IND]lollertrade4win)).

Some of these "elite" groups are invite only. Others are open for recruitment. All you need to do is show you are relatively sane, able to talk and roleplay as a member of that faction and boom- You're away.

Give out a terrorist ID and look forward to

lolWild: ))))))))
You have been destroyed by lolWild (gun).

Some people will put on their troll face and say "But that's what happens already!"

No, it isn't. You would recognise the difference.

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[Hone]

If a wilde is coming to shoot you, uh, shoot him? Whats the problem?

If your a trader who cares if its a wilde or a pirate? Why would you want to be a wilde just to shoot people anyway? FL has rubbish combat compared to most games.

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[Govedo13]

No, it isn't. You would recognise the difference.

No I wouldn't recognise any difference if the said factions ship-lines and guns are balanced properly like the rest of the sirius factions. And as Hone said for the casual trader/miner there is no difference if he is shot by 8 gunner corsair gb or 8 gunner wilde gb, if the wilde gb turrets dont have cruiser dps.
Or may be the difference between smuggling zoner guard ided powertraders and this:
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/8431/screen8m.jpg ??
I dont see any except of the name, and the ID, ah yea the zoner powertraders got Zoner guard ID nerfed.....
I personally was in the situations where I was in 5 avengers vs 1 with proper RP reasons and
situation where I was alone vs 5 nomads who shoot me because U human dai.
No I frankly dont see any difference.

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Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

[Veygaar]

No I wouldn't recognise any difference if the said factions ship-lines and guns are balanced properly like the rest of the sirius factions. And as Hone said for the casual trader/miner there is no difference if he is shot by 8 gunner corsair gb or 8 gunner wilde gb, if the wilde gb turrets dont have cruiser dps.
Or may be the difference between smuggling zoner guard ided powertraders and this:
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/8431/screen8m.jpg ??
I dont see any except of the name, and the ID, ah yea the zoner powertraders got Zoner guard ID nerfed.....
I personally was in the situations where I was in 5 avengers vs 1 with proper RP reasons and
Situation where I was alone vs 5 nomads who shoot me because U human dai.
No I frankly dont see any difference.

Unbalance is part of the challenge. Do you complain in a video game (take MGS for example) where you have to fight a Boss if he has more health/more powerful weapons than you? Even though this is a RP game there still should be challenge's. And it doesn't always have to be a challenge of skill. It can be a challenge because the fella has more powerful setup, or one side has more ships like you mentioned above.

@ Everyone:

If you really want in an elite faction you should do this thing called ROLE PLAY, and get to know the fellas in charge of the faction and ask to/show them your RP. That's what this server is about, interacting with other people...

And as a side note, I have plenty of fun being a full time indy. I'm brand spanking new to boot, I don't know many people at all, I still get tech requests I RP for without having to be buddy buddy with folks...

All you need is a good attitude and to work within the confines of the rules/set guidelines. Don't try to take short cuts to get what you. You don't change the rules of Chess suddenly because you don't like them, you learn how to play with the given rules of the game when you entered.

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Veygaar for Admin Moderator 2013!!!