Having just flown this ship in a huge furball, battleships, gunboats, fighters the works. She flies fine, powerplant is definitely usable, turning is bomberlike, everything seems fine.
It's a bomber, not a VHF, and it flies like one, and it flies like a nimble bomber to boot. Not the fastest, certainly, but she's no slouch.
I like. Nerf? Compared to the preagle of 4.84 it's positively godlike.
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Who knows, maybe now people who have non-PVP reasons for using the Roc (visual appeal, character RP, etc.) won't get called PVP whores.
Right?
... please?
The nerf isn't a major one, as far as I can tell. Most of this freaking out seems to be more to the concept of a nerf than the specifics of the change.
' Wrote:While I dont disagree with this nerf in particular... do you realize how many factions are limited to using this and no other bombers?
A ship should not be better or worse just because it's military or civilian, balancing things in that manner only serves to nerf factions which do not have ships of their own.
Xenos, Unioners, Gaians, Freelancers, Vigilantes, Mercenaries, Bundschuh, LWB, Corporations, and many more are forced to use the roc or other civilian line ships because they have none of their own. What you are saying is that these factions should all be weaker than 'military' factions because of that limitation... unless you want to start modelling faction specific ships for all of these groups, you should probably keep your mouth shut.
Most of the faction which used civilian line are going to have their own.
GC have their own. FA have their own. Xenos are about to have thier own. LWB / Bunschuh can use borderworls / hessian. Gaians well they might have a problem here.
Unionres (same rheinland unlawful bombers, since rheinland unlawful movment is quite unison)
AS for freelancer and viligantes. THey are generic. Generic ships should be weaker than factionalized Correct me if im wrong on this statement.
All those listed bombers have exactly same powerplant. About same size and same (small differences) and about same armor (also small differences).
If you do the job of comparing size armor and turning of all like I did, you'll find they are pretty equal.
What about "mini" Mamoru? Red Cat MKII ?:D
Ship Class Bomber Built by Farmers Alliance Technical information Guns/Turrets 2 / 2 Opt. weapon class 6 Max. weapon class 6 Additional equipment
2xCD/T
1xCM
1xM
Hull strength 15,200 Max. shield class 10 Cargo space 80 units Nanobots/Batteries 85/85 Max. impulse speed 80 m/s Max. thrust speed 199 m/s Power output 38,200 u Power recharge 1,722 u/s
Ship Class Bomber Built by Civilian Technical information Guns/Turrets 4 / 1 Opt. weapon class 6 Max. weapon class 6 Additional equipment
2xCD/T
1xCM
1xM
Hull strength 16,800 Max. shield class 10 Cargo space 96 units Nanobots/Batteries 85/85 Max. impulse speed 80 m/s Max. thrust speed 199 m/s Power output 38,200 u Power recharge 1,722 u/s
It's much slower that those bombers listed, but also smaller and lightly armored. I don't see any big problems with it now that it's not flying around with Tizona turrets and dual mini razors.
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