So the Hessians have been called pirates, rebels, a revolution, and many other things. From the location of their bases, primarily in the omegas and their general thrust toward Bretonia and the deeper omegas, it seems they're less a revolution than they are an exodus from Rhienland proper. They do pirate in rhienland, but are much more heavily focused on the borderlands, and as such, find themselves fighting corsairs as often as they're fighting Rheinland, and as such, have become a reasonably large buffer state between Rhienland proper and the Corsair Nation.
This was all present in Vanilla, if sore lacking in detail due to Vanilla's rather Black and White House or Pirate description of the politics. While hessians control no planet (and rightly so, planets should be rare), they do control a reasonably wide swath of space, and every station should be considered a town, and like any town, a political structure, et cetera.
I understand the hessian's motivations for disliking the position Rhienland's gotten itself into vis a vie corporate explotion of natural resources in the house, but I'm unsure how that should actually affect the Hessians. Mollies, another faction of miners in revolt, make sense in their war with the house, in that the house refuses to let go. Hessians..aren't part of the house, it seems. They're out in the borederlands.
Acceptably, the Hessians have a reason to hate Daumann and Kruger, and if they're strapped for cash, piracy may be a good source of income along the higher Omegas.
What goals, exactly, does the Hessian group have. Does it even have a coherent set of goals? Is each hessian station an independent item with seperate goals, or is the whole faction a single nation?
Do the hessians want to take back rhienland, and if so, why are they ranging so far from it? If they don't, why're they so concerned about what's going on inside Rhienland's borders?
Maybe there's no clear answers to these probings. Perhaps its such a polygot group that everything is going on. But, honestly, I find them a little bit confusing. Thoughts?
A- they got natters
B- they got odins.
C- Hessians same as Corsairs have huge playerbase - from the best PvPers around to their stormtrooper brigade. Good thing in 4.85 was that they had no battleship so the cap spam was minimal, I am wishing that it could be the same with Corsairs and Outcasts.. but in 4.86 we will capspam together.:rolleyes:
A together with B and C make Hessians pure win faction, as far as I know they want to overthrow the Rheinland Government as main task even if they are concentrated in the borderlands .
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
"The Red Hessians (Die Roten Hessen) are a large organised group... dedicated to the elimination of the corporations Daumann and Kruger, the takeover of the Dresden system, and eventually the Rheinland government itself."
The current RHA PvP faction does seem to be essentially an artifice of player motivations, but it technically does serve as somewhat of the military side of the Bundschuh populist movements. Rather than fight politics with politics, they fight it with open revolt. Kind of like the Mollies fighting for a free Dublin.
Thing is the revolution is completely spread all over Rheinland, with the Hessians in the Omegas and Dresden, LWB in Stuttgart and New Berling, Unioners in Munich, Bundschuh in Frankfurt. As the Hessians are allied to all of those we operate Rheinlandwide, there are some ships docked on our allies bases. Thing why you might think we`re mainly operating in Omegas is just that it`s fun to shoot Sairs :$.
' Wrote:Good thing in 4.85 was that they had no battleship so the cap spam was minimal, I am wishing that it could be the same with Corsairs and Outcasts.. but in 4.86 we will capspam together.:rolleyes:
Corsairs and Outcasts are far, far away from House systems, so that kind of reduces the amount of Capship raids.
New Berlin and the Hessian Guard system are just separated through Dresden, so i actually fear we soon will have Hessian battleships "rping" to bombard Planet Berlin, or battleships farming Battleship NPCs on Planet New Berlins Orbit.
In vanilla they were more like pirates, in discovery they kind of adapted some Bundschuh goals.
Their goals mainly are:
- to overthrow the current government to replace it
- to put an end to politicians acting in favour of big concerns like Daunmann when it comes to passing laws
- to defend Rheinland from outside threads like Liberty invading or the Corsairs roaming in the Omegas
- to better the Situation of Daunmann/Kruger workers (most of the Hessians are former workers)
- to put an end to slavery
So on the one side they are attacking the military to weaken the government - on the other hand they are sometimes teaming up with the military to defend the fatherland against outside threads.
The reason you might think that Hessians are mainly operating in the Omegas is because while they are trying to better the situation in Rheinland they are in a full-scale war with the Corsairs in the Omegas - kind of like Kusari and Bretonia at the moment.
-They both have Bases in Omega 5 and Omega 47 and are constantly trying to ring down the other side there.
-They have been fighting for Omega 5 for the last 80 years.
-Casablanca base in was Omega 47 corsair-occupied and has been conquered by the Hessians 7 years ago - kind of like LD-14 in Bretonia - that is when the Corsairs stationed Battleship Fes there to guard the jumphole.
-If i am informed correctly, Casablanca base will be recaptured by the corsairs in 4.86.
So yea - the corsairs kinda keep them busy in the omegas.
Yep there won`t change much, and to be honest fights in the Hammen Hole tend to be really cool, maybe they`ll become a little bigger with Jormungands and hopefully not as retarded as OC vs. Sair capfights.
Hessians in vanilla are simple pirates of miner decedent who took refugee in omega space. Unfortunatly for them omegas were already under the influence of Corsairs. So the war broke loose. Due to the fact taht sairs are outnumbered badly the frontlines keeps steady.
In Disco hessian faction was influented by a player who sympathizes to radical left ideologies. Keeping in mind colorful hessian background it was easy to turn hessian to something like National Bolshevist movment rather than just simple pirates who are trying to make a living in borderworlds.
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