Signore Mobius, I think you should talk to some of your brethren. The timing of certain recent events is..... suspicious, at least.
But onward.
This is not the first time we have been attacked from Zoner bases.
It is not the second, nor the third, or the fourth, or the fifth, or the sixth.
This is a perennial issue, and every time we bring it up...
Nothing.
The Hessians, the mercenaries, the Outcasts, still they dock at Freeport Five, at Corfu, at the Nine.
You talk at us over and over, claiming you have no power to stop these things.
And then you say we cannot hurt you, you are mighty and invincible.
Neither of these things is true.
Peace can be had when the Empire is assured that you wish to help peace.
It cannot be had when you may aid the Empire in obtaining peace, and yet do nothing.
We do not ask that you ban all mercenaries from docking at every Zoner base.
We do not ask that you declare war on the Hessians for us.
We ask that you respect the singular fact that some of your stations reside in our space, under our guns, at our convenience.
You wish for neutrality in our wars, i tell you, your neutrality died when the first Hessian fled to a Freeport in our space, and you did nothing.
It died when the Outcasts used your bases to stage their capital fleets, and you did nothing.
It died when the Reavers and the Mandalorians and the Hunters and all the Mercenaries in Sirius supplied at a Freeport in our space, and then came, guns blazing to kill our citizens, and you did nothing.
The Corsairs have had enough of a neutrality that benefits only our enemies.
We will ensure the safety of our home, of our people, with or without your help, and on this, there can be no disinterested withdrawal, no sidelines, no neutrality, no middle.
You give safe haven, supplies, food and fuel, and safety, to our enemies, in our space, or you do not.
That is your ultimatum. That is our "negotiations".
We do not care for your "morals", for your values or balance, or your integrity or your "rights".
We care about protecting Crete.
And if this means reducing an enemy base to rubble, so be it.
I suspect this is an attitude that any military across Sirius would share.
gone four years, first day back: Zoners still getting shot in Theta :|
Omnicroners, you were warned, you were warned a long time ago. Here are the logs from that discussion in case you don't remember it <click me>. You had more than enough time to act and you did nothing. Nothing !!! Still, you blame us for trying to clean our lawn?
Of course you do not own Theta, the Corsair Empire does and that is why starting now all ships carrying Omnicroner transponders are banned from Corsair space, as defined by the Corsair Laws. We do not need nor want you in our space so stay out of it or you will be shot upon without warning until further notice.
As in our previous conversation, we recommend the evacuation of both Freeport Nine and Corfu Base. Fail to do that and every single drop of zoner blood will be on your hands.
Time has come for you to pick a side and you should think well about it. From what I've heard your Order allies are in no position to help you this time and 74 is just around the corner so trust me when I say you do not want us as enemies.
<div align="right]Vittorio Fernando de Sanchez Rodriguez of the Black Sails
I never said that your pilots are incompetent, and that you don't understand tactics! I even explicit said that "teaching you tactics is like teaching a priest how to pray".
But of what i can see ... not only the administrators and others are trying to work a diplomatic solution! So there are no worries!
you should keep your thoughts for you because it does not interest me at all.
Also I think I must repeat why I am discussing with you now: I am here to solve the issue regarding Corfu. If you are not interested in it it then we must stop to waste our time.
Despite your attitude, I still believe you may be interested to find a peaceful solution otherwise Globalo would have not posted his evidences. In other words to answer Globalo's question: Will zoners make something to stop this? The answer is YES. Comprendo?
Talking about the past is absolutely useless here. So let's focus on the future and find a way to solve your problem with your enemies docking on our bases.
The first thing I need to convince the Freeport 9 admin of the problem is evidences proving your enemies are indeed using our bases to attack corsairs. In the Globalo's post I can only see corsairs pursuing a RR pilot that docks on Corfu. It does not prove the RR pilot attacked you first. Such fact needs to be proven.
Also, since we are complying with your request you have no reason to attack zoners, therefore you must cancel the recent order stating zoners are enemies of corsairs. If you don't comply with this point I will immediately stop my effort to solve the current issue.
Evidence? You want evidence, senor Moebus? You need proofs? How about some antimatter, you worm! It it too late for proofs or evidences, gringo! I tried to talk to you months ago and you ignored me! I warned you that it will eventually come down to this and you ignored me again! Maybe a shower of Nova torpedoes heading your way will make you listen to us!
Our patience has come to an end! Like I already said you and your organization are no longer allowed to enter our space. Stay out and let us take care of things our way.
However, if you show a gesture of good faith, like removing our enemies' docking rights on both Corfu and Nine I will consider talking to you and negotiating a way out of this mess. RR's, hessians, outcasts, bounty hunters, Reavers, Mandalorians and even the occasional molly mercenaries. We want them out of Theta and that will happen with or without your help. The only question is whether you, the group you represent or Corfu and Nine will still be there to see the end.
<div align="right]Vittorio Fernando de Sanchez Rodriguez of the Black Sails
Zoners...
They were always delicious. I hope I will be able to hunt some soon since they never ever learn.
My humble proposition to the council of Elders is to kill some amount of them- 100 or 200 ships-enslaving and eating their pilots or so after that they might change their mind.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
soo where to start senors. i try to make it point after point
senor moebius, you are saying that we declared war without giving you time for actions, search on previous communications between zoners and corsairs, and you will find that this is not first time when this same thing make problem... so your time for actions was long enough....and what zoners maked? nothing ....
and your words about zoners attacking us in gamma are the funniest thing that i ever hear. and you know why ? BECAUSE YOU ARE SCREAMING THAT YOU HAVE NOT ENOUGH POWER TO STOP SHIPS ATTACKING OUR HOME TO DOCK ON YOUR STATIONS ! and right after that you say this....are you sure you are not on cardamine ?
and you talking about our attitude? you think that reply in this channel from captain of TAZ-PANDA is funny? When i meet that ship my actions will be even more funny....
and this :The first thing I need to convince the Freeport 9 admin of the problem is evidences proving your enemies are indeed using our bases to attack corsairs. In the Globalo's post I can only see corsairs pursuing a RR pilot that docks on Corfu. It does not prove the RR pilot attacked you first. Such fact needs to be proven.
you need evidence? how many? how many times i must scream and send angry messages to zoners to have enough evidence? or you think all these ships were jumping from gamma to theta just to destroy single ship near corfu? you think i will take my gunboat only for fun to theta to hunt someone? why dont you ask that zoner that was there? and saw that? you have fear that he will tell you that he saw said ship running from gamma to corfu pursued by our ships?
or you have fear that he will say you that ship that was destroyed by our forces was repaired on corfu and undocked from there in front of my eyes?
to the captain of TAZ-PANDA, just for joke, when your ship last time docked on crete with food? just curious...
and to the zoners screaming how we will something special from zoners, you know what is difference between our nations? our nation has honour !
or you forget how i personnaly destroyed corsair ship only because he attacked zoner transport and refused to stop when i ordered him?
and that is the difference, our nation has balls to make things to change something, not only talk, but act....
and imagine situation, what you will make when lets say few klicks from baffin will be our base and some pirates will constant attack you... what you will make? ignore that? or ask us to stop it? i am sure you will ask, and i am sure we will force the pirates to stop it...
I agree to use all my influence to prevent people to use our base to launch military raids against corsairs, take it or leave it. You already know my conditions.