' Wrote:Sovereign your argument is moot one too-
you present power-gaming scenario witch is not the case because power gaming is impossible when nobody play as brigand.In liberty there are active players aka- people who represent the said factions.
In the brigand case there are not such people so I really don't think that is case here.
However,
Realist tip:
it's still ridiculous- indeed it is ridiculous how the GRN members try to bring moot non-existent RP arguments to justify that they OORP don't like LE people.Please stop,think a bit, and try again.
it is power gaming - your taking the right away from a group of people who might be writing their FCR right now, and have the 500m for the request and 500m for a system, etc etc.
and you mistake us. we don't dislike you. how can we dislike you when all we have heard of you is this document? -We- are the friendly ones who are trying to help. wait for the trolls to come.
' Wrote:I assume the story has enough information about the thing that caused the misunderstanding. By anti-royalist we mean the Legion's negative attitude to the Navy (they consider themselves betrayed). Again, I would suggest to read the story. Why would Trent got accepted by the Lane Hackers in vanilla? Thay said: "The enemy of our enemy is our friend" (or something close to that).
read it? maybe later, im trying to cook dinner and write up a CV, apply for jobs, and watch tv. in-game, if someone asks me who the LE are, i cant write a five page story; what would you like me to write?
Edit: i read it.
"The GRN officials claimed that the Legionnaires were using sirian weaponary. The fact that Legion of the Damned developed their own advanced weapon systems would explain both the wrath ot the Royal Navy (who considered those guns Sirian) and Enzo's confidence of the Legion's innocense. We shall never know if the Legion's scientists developed their own powerful weapons, since most of the Legion's ships using those guns were destroyed in the battle that followed afterwards. That's how it happened. "
wait... what? the LE have their own weapons line? what are the stats on that? any decent hullbusters?
this could be stated better that the pretext for declaring LE enemies of the state was the sirian weapons, when in fact they had been developed from scratch by the LE to meet the challenges that the GRN demanded of them, when in fact the real reason was that the GRN was concerned about the unswerving loyalty the troops displayed to their charismatic leader. Sources close to the King suggest that removing a potential threat was his aim, and the suspect weapons merely provided the casus belli
why are you LE not LD? where does the 'E' come from? is it the initials of Lord Enzo?
' Wrote:read it? maybe later, im trying to cook dinner and write up a CV, apply for jobs, and watch tv. in-game, if someone asks me who the LE are, i cant write a five page story; what would you like me to write?
why are you LE not LD? where does the 'E' come from?
Ok, I'll tell you the short version: the Legion was an unofficial group (GRN ID/IFF). One day they were charged with treachery by the Gallic Royal Navy for using Sirian guns (=Codenames) and attacked. This is the shortest version of that part of our story. However, it caused a lot of questions, so it was changed a bit, so now the origins of the conflict are shady (however, codenames are mentioned).
Now I'm sorry, but I need to go now. Further comments on the story are welcome (by comments I mean either approval, or constructive criticism). That'll make checking that tomorrow easier (for me at least).
Dab and Sovereign:
I am not in LE, I was not in LE and probably I wouldn't be in,Seby invited me a month ago but I refused since I have my other own RP projects- also quite disputable ones- look the sanction section for example, may be that's why I am in bad mood today.
I just wanted to point out that the LE as group of people active in the server deserve to have their home in space and in Gallia. Since they cannot be GRN since you are, you as more experienced players/developers then they and me can help them with their project. And I strongly believe that the lore should serve the players- the members of the community,otherwise it is a just something that is written on piece of paper/pixels.You can call it metagaming/powergaming- I call it reality- there is a real group of people out there who do want to do it. I really don't understand what is the bad part of it. You don't want them to be anti-royalist? Why? They have all the reasons on the world to be anti-royalists and shoot GRN.
I don't believe that LE twist the Brigand NPC faction to purely suit their needs,I think that they intent to make symbiosis between both - with is good in my book and in RP point of view.
Look what Catbert wrote:
2) The legionnaires just have to do what they do in order to survive. But they live on Brigand bases, so after some time of co-existing they get used to the new way of life.
Anyway thank you for the civil discussion and for the understanding. I will go to drink a beer.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
' Wrote:Dab and Sovereign:
I am not in LE, I was not in LE and probably I wouldn't be in,Seby invited me a month ago but I refused since I have my other own RP projects- also quite disputable ones- look the sanction section for example, may be that's why I am in bad mood today.
I just wanted to point out that the LE as group of people active in the server deserve to have their home in space and in Gallia. Since they cannot be GRN since you are, you as more experienced players/developers then they and me can help them with their project. And I strongly believe that the lore should serve the players- the members of the community,otherwise it is a just something that is written on piece of paper/pixels.You can call it metagaming- I call it reality- there is a real group of people out there who do want to do it. I really don't understand what is the bad part of it.
I don't believe that LE twist the Brigand NPC faction to purely suit their needs,I think that they intent to make symbiosis between both - with is good in my book and in RP point of view.
Look what Catbert wrote:
2) The legionnaires just have to do what they do in order to survive. But they live on Brigand bases, so after some time of co-existing they get used to the new way of life.
Anyway thank you for the civil discussion and for the understanding. I will go to drink a beer.
*raises eyebrow*
Huh.
I'll reserve further judgment on this proposal until I see what they come up with in revisions.
Quote:The former members of the Royalist Group "Legion des Damnes", that have been dramatically decimated by the Gallic Royal Navy from over 100 thousand to only 2000 people , have managed to become Brigands when they were searching for a new home. Heavily wounded and weakened, they now try to supply what has remained of their former fleet and to get back to their former power to take revenge for the treachery against them.
Brigands are the largest organized criminal organization in Gallia. They are behind every illegal activity and are constantly growing. Most Brigands are former police or military, like from the LE, and they aid the Council, Maquis and Unione Corse.
The former servants of the King managed to form the loosely affilated criminals into a new generation of organized crime. Being former Navy pilots, they have had the same logistic and tactical education as their enemies and thus are a force to be reckoned with, as they fight their enemies with their own tactics - and equipment.
The rest of the Brigands have been overhauled and are now trained more effectively to defend themselves against Royal Forces - and ambush their stations, traders and military.
This appears to be a problem, at first, why wouldnt the Brigands just and simply kill a 'fleet' of crippled Navy ships when they have the chance to?
And why would said Brigands, that somehow didnt kill you while they had the chance to take down some really easy prey, not imprison them? They accept them into their ranks and let them lead the Brigands?
Those things are lacking logic. I wouldnt invite my former worst enemy to boss me around...
Quote:The Brigands are criminals. But as criminals, they're anti-royalist. Also, in-RP we're former GRN, so running to the Council, the ones the legionnaires have been killing for ages isn't usually a good plan.
So you didnt kill any Brigands? Im sure you did, they are enemies of the crown and all. So why should they let you stay alive while the Council which should be less violent and evil wouldnt?
ok, revision on it has been done. a lot of it. posting the fixes now.
Legion des Damnes
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Basic Info
[color=#FFFFFF] The former members of the Royal Navy group Legion des Damnes successfully escaped the clutches of the GRN, but suffered heavy losses in doing so. A once proud hundred thousand men and women was whittled down to two thousand in a single day.
Struggling to escape with what they had left, the Legionnaires regrouped deep inside the Morvan asteroid field, with brave pilots fighting swarms of GRN ships, to buy the time needed for the Grande Guillotine, to escape.
With few options, and the GRN closing in on them quickly, due to damage caused to the Guillotines engines, the Legionnaires set a course for Montbard base, their only salvation. Intending to assault and capture the base, despite the impossibility of the task with their weakened forces.
However, the Legionnaires did not send in an all out reckless assault. Tactics and skill were in their blood, and because of that, there remained a slim hope that they would survive the coming battle.
In the end, unforeseen circumstances intervened. Certain brigand elements aboard the base, who were assisting in the (terrible) co-ordination of the defence, enacted a plan that would, if successful, allow both sides to survive against the GRN fleet coming in to wipe out the remains of the legion forces.
The plan was successful. Depending on your view of successful. Montbard still stands, despite heavy damage. The Legionnaires survived, despite heavy losses. And the Royalist fleet was tricked into turning back, preventing the complete destruction of either sides forces.
However, there were unexpected effects of these facts. The Legion changed. It still stands strong, But now, the surviving Legionnaires fly more for themselves than for a common goal. They still understand teamwork, and the bonds they forged together so long on the battlefield.
But now they have turned to a life of crime. Won over by the destruction of their lives, and their time on Montbard with the Brigands Instead of fighting for the crown, they steal for themselves. Instead of boasting about their skills as pilots and warriors, they instead brag about their latest spoils.
They themselves have become Brigands. United, as other small gangs of Brigands are, by their lifetime of working together, they steal and smuggle as one, fighting for the best spoils from a lonely tradesman, or fighting for dominance over each other.
But they have survived.
They are the Legion des Damnes.
[color=#FF0000]Objectives
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Grow in numbers and higher influence over Royal Gallia
Smuggling and Pirating to keep supplies up
Find Sirian allies or partners, and expand into Sirius
[color=#FF0000]Bases of Operation
[color=#FFFFFF]Narbonne Base - Languedoc
Valence Base - Dauphine
Montbard Base - Burgundy
Epernay Station - Champagne
Access to most Council/Maquis/Union Corse bases, docking rights on planet Marne
[color=#FF0000]Zone of influence
[color=#FFFFFF][color=#FF0000]Primary ZoI: Systems where Brigand bases are located, and piracy/smuggling areas.
[color=#FF6600]Secondary ZoI: Since the minefield has been cleared, Brigands will now also travel to the part of Sirius that is near to Gallia, reasons for this are: Establishing Connections to Sirian (unlawfuls), possible Sirius-Gallia smuggle or piracy
Diplomacy
[color=#FFFFFF][color=#33FF33]Allied
The most trusted friend are to be helped whenever needed
Unione Corse
[color=#33CC00]Friendly
Friends of the Brigands - support and trust
Council
Maquis
Neutral
Neutral forces are nor threat, nor help. Establish a more fixed stance towards them.
Junkers
Sirians
Hostile
Enemies of the Brigands. Act in accordance with the situation:
Gallic Companies (pirate only if you're sure that they're not well-guarded; the Legion needs no losses)
Gallic Police (try bribing them and they might turn a blind eye on your actions)
Gallic Navy (extremely dangerous, avoid if possible; if it's impossible... you know the drill)
Ranks
[color=#FFFFFF][color=#FFFFFF]While Brigands are "criminals", they are not all unorganized. The Legion is one of the few organised groups within the Brigands. The Lord has made a clear military-grade rank structure with the purpose of keeping the Legion, like already stated, organized and planned for anything. Furthermore, the legionnaires are used to the hierarchy. However, the command chain became shorter.
Ranks Desriciption
[color=#FFFFFF]Leaders
[color=#FFFFFF]Lord: he has the supreme power over the Legion, he is representing the gang both militarily and politically, if needed. Every legionnaire has to listen to the Lord's call, failure to do so will end in execution.
Quartermaster: the right hand of the Lord Marechal and leads the Legion in his absence, or aids him in imporant decisions. A Quartermaster is elected.
[size=small][color=#FF6600]Commanders
Warden: The 3 Brigand Wardens are front-line leaders that operate in the most imporant areas. Only the best and most dangerous pilots can become Wardens, and only if they are able to lead a large attack and piracy formation.
Fence: A Bandit who proved he's a cut above the rest. He's trusted enough to lead a raid himself, but you wouldn't send him after a juicy target.
Lower ranks
Bandit: A Bandit knows what he's doing. you give him a job, he'll get it done. He's your typical front-line man. Grunt:Grunts are the maggots who think they have what it takes. If they want to live, they'll have to earn their keep.
[color=#FF0000]Honor titles
While "honor" is a word that mostly Royals use, true "honor" can be found in the hearts of all Brigands - if they prove to be especially brave, tough and dangerous to his enemies. The Legion keeps some of its military titles of honour as a remembrance of their previous life.
[color=#FF0000]Descripition
[color=#FFFFFF]Hero of the Legion The most honourful title a legionnaire can carry. No-one has ever reached this ultimate rank of honour. But, who knows, maybe a Hero will step up from the current Brigands - the One will earn infinite honour and respect even after death.
Champion: Those who wish to become a Champion have to go a long way. Chevaliers, already marked by the hundreds of battles they were in, are dedicating their whole life just to reach this rank. Most of them fail. Only a handful of Champions have stepped out from the rest. They are respected and seen as idols from the lower ranks.
Chevalier: Those that become Chevaliers have had many victorious battles behind them. Rare to find, a Chevalier is the sword and shield of the Legion. His body is the shield. His skill is the sword.
[color=#FF0000]Ships used by the Legion of the Damned
[color=#3333FF]Rescued Navy ships
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Lynx - limited amount, was docked on Grande Guillotine (SRP needed for that)
Cougar - limited amount, was docked on the Flagship (SRP needed aswell)
The Grande Guillotine, that managed to flee heavily damaged (SRP needed for that ship; until then it's floating somewhere near Montbrand as a wreck)
[color=#FF6600]Brigand Ships
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Mistral - Brigand Light Fighter (can be used by everyone)
Cuirassier - Brigand Heavy Fighter (can be used by everyone except Grunts)
Jaguar - Brigand Bomber (can be used by everyone except Grunts; Bandits can request, if approved by a Warden)
L'Ane - Brigand Transport (can be used by everyone except Grunts)
Asco - Brigand Gunboat (can only be used by Wardens or higher; one chosen Fence can also command a gunboat)
Naming Conventions
The Lord: Lord.
Quartermaster: Qtm.
Warden: Wd.
Fence: Fc.
Bandit: Bt.
Grunt: Gt.
For Fighters/Bombers: +LE+Rank.Name.Lastname
For Capital-Class vessels: +LE+Shipname
ID/IFF: Gallic Brigands
For joining the Legion des Damnes pm an LE member. It will remain so while the faction is unofficial. Due to major re-work the roster is being reconsidered.
The Legion des Damnes was becoming a heavier presence in Gallia every day. Every time an enemy insurgent force was detected, as always, as we swore, we were the first to respond. Fighting for crown and honor, we did what we were taught to do, without remorse, without mercy, we fought to the death. Such blind loyalty can only be retrieved from the purest of hearts. This being the strength of the Legion was evidently our weakness. This very fact would soon prove to be too much for some to take.
However, two powerful structures can not exist without colliding at some point. Eventually, that collision happened, even if it was sudden and unexpected. Now not many people know what caused it. Enzo believed that it was the plot of the Grand Marshall of the Royal Navy, whereas the common point states that the Legion was accused of assisting Sirians. The GRN officials claimed that the Legionnaires were using sirian weaponary. The fact that Legion of the Damned developed their own advanced weapon systems would explain both the wrath ot the Royal Navy (who considered those guns Sirian, or at the very least unauthorised) and Enzo's confidence of the Legion's innocence. We shall never know if the Legion's scientists developed their own powerful weapons, since most of the Legion's ships using those guns were destroyed in the battles that followed afterwards. But those guns were one of the main reasons this came about.
Lord Enzo du Sable's forces were spread dealing with what on report seemed to be one of the largest council insurgency attempts on record, he himself had to respond. Leaving the bridge of the Legions flagship to the ships hangers, he entered his private Lynx. It was at this moment that Enzo received a transmission from a wing of his fighters; they were claiming they were sent into an ambush; the GRN had opened fire from behind and were massacring the Legions forces. Enzo was not sure what to believe, but as all men and women under the Legion flag were considered equal in opportunity, he took his soldiers word as the communication abruptly ended. Leaving his Lynx in the hangar, he returned to the bridge, where reports from almost every fighter wing were coming in. All the same message. The GRN had ambushed and attacked them. Enzo closed his eyes, listening to the screams as men and women were vaporized, or sucked into the vacuum. Then he regained his composure, and ordered an emergency broadcast be sent to any remaining Legionnaires.
“This is lord Marechal Enzo du Sable. It seems the GRN have turned against us. All ships receiving this message, regroup at sector G8, in the Burgundy system. Avoid tradelanes and jumpgates, and be sure to steer clear of known patrol routes. Do not, under any circumstances, share any information with non-Legionnaire forces, and do not regroup with us if you are being followed. If you can’t get here, comrades, I advise you to follow your instinct. Survive by any means necessary.”
Confusion swept through the Legionnaires around Gallia. A retreat had never been issued in the history of the Legion. Fighting to the death was preferable to surviving and fighting another day.
Half an hour later, the Legion forces who had survived the GRN massacre had made it to the rendezvous point. Two cruisers and five gunboats floated near the flagship, the Grande Guillotine. Hundreds of fighters and bombers patrolled in a 5 kilometre perimeter, and scouts patrolled 15k away, ensuring that the Legionnaires would not be caught by surprise.
Standing on the bridge of the Guillotine, Enzo was disappointed by the meager handful of ships around him. His second in command, Brigitte Bardot, had been sent to what was deemed the heart of the insurgency.
Enzo composed himself, then nodded to one of his bridge crew. An encrypted comm. Went to all Legionnaire ships in the area, sending Enzo’s message out to the pitiful remains of a once proud fleet.
"Dark times are upon us, mes amis, it seems the very crown we serve has turned against us, why? I do not know, all I know is we have no choice but to move. Times will get tough, supplies will dwindle, forces may weaken, but we will not give up. As I speak our activity may be traced, keeping a fleet as large as this isn't easily hidden. Regardless, our forces are as we see here weakened; we have no base of operation other than the Guillotine, and only a handful or gunboats and cruisers left. I ask not for loyalty, which has already been shown, I ask however for ruthlessness, the power to fight on through anything you can. We will need supplies; we will need to gather what we can from where we can. I am not proud to have to order this upon you, but, I have no choice. If we are to pull through to our former glory will need to embrace our fall now and prosper from it as best we can."
There was a atmosphere of sheer confusion, tension and after a few minutes of almost complete silence, Enzo said openly: "Are you with me, mes amis?"
The response was bigger and better than Enzo could have hoped for, almost as soon as Enzo had finished speaking, a massive roar of applause, the legion's battle cry erupted from every ship's transmissions box, the roar echoed through the Guillotine and hung thick in the heads of all around.
The moment could only be savoured for so long, however, before two royalist cruisers and three gunboats showed up, sending only threats of death to the Legion ships, before attacking.
On another day Enzo might have valued the bravery of those ships crews, but today he ordered the escape pods burned as they flew from the burning hulks that remained of the ships.
Enzo knew that the Legion’s position would have been marked by those ships, and ordered an immediate retreat into the Morvan asteroid field. Scouts flew ahead of the Guillotine, and the gunboats blasted apart the asteroids too large for the Guillotine to push past. It was slow, but inside the asteroid field the navy ships would have difficulty following them.
Enzo’s mind wandered as he tried to think of solutions to his problem. He had no reinforcements. He had no safe place to go. And he had, no doubt, a large navy force bearing down on him.
Enzo knew that certain pirate groups had bases in this field….In fact, he had their locations. Many a scouting party had disappeared before that first one had discovered the base. Since then, scouting parties avoided the base, and with the powerful defense platforms, coupled with the asteroid field, it was believed that taking the base would cost resources that couldn’t be wasted on pirates. But Enzo was desparate. His only chance to survive meant taking that base. Reaching the champagne jumphole wouldn’t help in the slightest – the council didn’t seem likely to help them. And heading to Lorraine would put them at the mercy of the royalists stationed there.
Enzo gave an order for scouts to move towards Montbard, and the rest of the ships to follow them.
[color=#FF0000]Legion des Damnes
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[color=#FF0000]On Montbard
<div align="right] Etien was sitting behind a desk in his home on Montbard. A guard stood just inside the door, watching the man who had come to see Etien. Short and balding, Etien knew not to underestimate him. He was sure he had some weapons still on him, despite the search Etien had ordered.
A weapons smuggler, Dean Petit knew the best ways to keep a weapon hidden, as well as knowing where weapons could be obtained. Etien had arranged this meeting a week ago, since he needed to supply weapons to his thugs and supporters, and also because he needed parts for his own small projects.
“It may take some time to obtain those particular models, but I can have them to you in a week at the latest” Dean finished, standing with his hands behind his back. A habit from his time in the Royal Police, Etien mused.
“Be sure you’re discreet.” Etien replied, standing and gesturing for Dean to leave, which he did, taking back his dagger from the guard before walking out the door, which was an airlock in case the asteroid depressurized during an attack, or one of the more violent riots.
Etien gestured for the bulky guard to leave, then started scrolling through the list of projects he didn’t have the resources to undertake. “soon” he whispered softly, before being interrupted by a message on the base’s emergency PA.
“We got some navy ships coming in, grab your ships and get the hell out there!”
Always so polite and formal, Etien thought sarcastically, before pulling up scout reports and the reports on the station sensors.
“ACCESS DENI-“
Etien muted the warning, before typing in the codes he had stolen to get access to the defense systems sensors. A Valor, a two Obstinates and five Perilous class vessels, along with a huge swarm of fighters and bombers. Etien had no intention of taking flight himself, he preferred planning things than being in dogfights. But he did make sure his less important and more annoying associates took to space. If they died, it meant less fools to deal with each day.
Montbard shook as a mortar blast impacted on the rocky surface. Unless that Valor was disabled, The base would fall. And considering what co-ordination was usually like, the defense ships would be targeting the fighters and bombers first.
Etien quickly found a trio of bomber pilots willing to let him choose their target, for a small fee. Ordering them to aim for the command bridge, he left them to their task, praying they wouldn’t fail. Then Etien focused on what exactly he could say to convince these fools to give up. He opened the latest news reports, searching for anything that might help.
Etien peered at the text rolled across the screen, then pulled up the IFF from the ships attacking the base. He looked at the news report a second time just to be sure, then smiled.
“Legion des Damnes, eh? This’ll be easier than I thought.”
[color=#FF0000]Legion des Damnes
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[color=#FF0000]During the battle
<div align="right] [color=#FFFFFF]The Legionnaires were fighting harder than they had in years. Their natural instinct for survival had kicked in, that, and the fact that this was no normal mission, made them even more dangeorous than they usually were. Despite this, however, they were taking heavy damage. Three of the gunboats and one of the cruisers had fallen, and the Guillotines shields were failing. The Legionnaires fell back temporarily to re-evaluate their enemy, and find a way to better a terrible situation.
The brigand bombers stopped firing on the Guillotine as soon as it and the other Legion ships were out of range of the stations defences. However, one trio of bombers flew out wildly towards the Guillotine. The first fired a SNAC, then engaged his thrusters. The fool flew right into the projectile, and was turned into a large fireball that quickly extinguished in the vacuum.
The other two pilots fired their SNACs in unison, then strafed to the side and engaged their thrusters. The first SNAC took out what remained of the shields, and the second hit the bridge dead on. A fireball erupted from the broken hull, as the Legionnaire fighters fired as one, hundreds of pinpoints of light boiling away the shields and hull of the bombers in seconds.
The Legionnaire forces floated in space, hundreds of pilots wondering who was to take command. On board the Guillotine, Enzo lay in the corridor outside the bridge, having barely managed to fling himself through the door before it sealed, blocking off the bridge entirely.
A comm. suddenly burst through to every Legionnaire ship in the area. Encrypted, badly, coming from Montbard.
“Your fools of leaders are dead, Legionnaires. You never had a chance to take this base. But I know what’s happened. You defied the Royal Navy, your comrades, and you paid the price. I give you the option to give up your old ways, survive and fight another day. I can assure you freedom and riches. But only if you’re willing to step into a life of crime.”
Confusion swept through the ranks of the Legionnaires. Some of them were former criminals, so this offer didn’t seem entirely insane to them. Those who weren’t realised this might be their only way out. And a good one at that.
“To the north, by your nav-map orientation, there is a jumphole to Champagne. If you wish for freedom, take it.”
A handful of the Legionnaire fighters instantly began to cruise towards the aforementioned jumphole. Others took a moment to decide, and followed them. The rest of the Legionnaires simply charged, unorganised, towards Montbard, leaving the crippled Guillotine behind them, unable to move or fire her weapons.
The Brigand defence platforms lit up as they fired towards the incoming ships. The remaining cruiser burned, molten metal drifting from her hull then solidifying into cold metal orbs.
While the ships were being massacred, a L’ane undocked from the base, and began cruising towards the Champagne jumphole.
The Legionnaires and Etien met up outside Epernay. A handful of surviviors, 100 at a rough count. Enzo du Sable had been found unconscious on the Guillotine, and someone had brought him in their cargo bay.
These Legionnaires chose crime. However, most of them had fought together for a long time. As such, they kept the name Legion des Damnes, becoming a gang like any other in the Brigands. However, as they integrated more into life as criminals, rank began to mean less to them. They were only useful to each other because they worked well together on raids, and if one controlled the rest, it was because he was stronger and more powerful than the others. A problem wasnt sorted with a trial, imprisonment or execution. A Legionnaire would simply beat his opponent to the ground.
the Guillotine remains floating outside Montbard, a broken wreck, until such time as the gang obtain the resources to repair her.