Advice about starting a gaian faction

[ProwlerPC]

Dang, I get on a bit, a little less then ShadowCat but Lurue (me) has been the source of destruction many times. Thinking of getting him tranport type ship real soon too. These new updates will suddenly cause me to get tied up temporarily with the faction I lead as order is restored, but I shall return to Bretonnia and spam the system chat again.

I'll see what I can asnwer here:

1. Can I modify the diplomatic relations with the factions from the ID? (like being neutral with the Outcasts or something like that) And can I sign a treaty or something with any Gallic Faction? (like, let's say the Brigands or the Unione Corse)

To some extent it has already been done. [NLH] doesn't play as the NPCs, which are pirates aligned to Corsairs and lost their way, we play as a revival of the militant wing of the Green Front. As such we are less aligned to Corsairs and more friendly with Kusari quasi lawfuls and lawfuls. Ensure that such differences are presented on the forums and RP it in-game.

2. The gaians only have the "Claymore" build on their own line. What ships should we use? (I was thinking of the civilian line (Starblazer, Griffin, Falcon, Eagle, Roc)

Yes the Gaian uses the civilian line of ships primarily. I've used the Civilian Bomber for nearly a year and a half now. (Yeah I got many hours as a Preagle)

3. Can we trade? I mean we are a "terrorist organization" but we still need to supply ourselves. If yes... what ship should we use? I was thinking at the Border Worlds Transport or to make a special request at one of our allies. Maybe the Correo from the Corsairs?

We sure can, absolutely, make sure to note the cargo limits and trade away!

4. About the ZOI... Can I have some influence in Kusari? (because inRP, the organization had agents all over the two Houses that are at war)

There was a discussion before about Gaian IDs operating in Kusari Core systems and AFA in Bretonian Core systems. I used to visit Kusari often before but I believe the limit is the Taus in that direction now. Of course it's different whan trading with escorts.

5. Can I talk inRP about a new invention? (a new less-polluting engine or fuel or something like that) - because if you look at the Gaian Gunship engines you will see that they are a bit different and I want to "give" the new technology to as many factions as I can.

Nice idea, we always like to think that we tinker with such things. More efficient and environment friendly and such :).

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[jammi]

Edit: Okay, the way I had put here looked like I wanted to picture Corsairs and Gaians into the political affairs more than they actually are. That is not very correct. What I wanted to say is that the Corsair empire is looking for expansion and territory, and the Gaians are more engaged into discussions along with the Green Front(1), along with the disruption of the Terraforming stuff(2)(3). Sorry for the incorrect info.

]_<". One, the discussions play less of a role in the Gaians. They're the by-product of the discussions, which was an extremeist eco-terrorist faction that was blinkered to more liberal arguments. You have to be if you're going to justify your actions. That's how they were founded anyway... Much alike the Hessians, who started with good intentions.

Two. The extremeist enviromentalist are a dying/dead breed. The Gaian newer generation is a full blooded piracy outfit. No morals, just piracy. Generally speaking these new Gaians don't give a damn about terraforming, Planetform or OSC. It saddens me that Gaian factions always try to take the good-guy option, rather than what the faction actually is...

Three. Any potential for the Gaians to return to an extremeist anti-terraforming organisation was more or less bulldozed by the war. To successfully acheive their goals, they need popular support. They sided with Kusari and lost every single vestige of popular support they may have had. You can't claim to have the population on your side when you're killing their soldiers, and helping the people that are trying to conquer them. Equally, the Gaians will have destroyed any influence they had in Parliment, because their actions would have marginalised the Green Front and polarised opinion against them. Honestly, the Green Front needs the Gaians like a hole in the head at the moment.

EDIT: Four. If you're going to play hardline enviromentalist, you should hate Kusari just as much as Bretonia. There are more terraforming projects in Kusari than in Bretonia*. Samura is a terraforming organisation.

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*To be confirmed. Probably wrong.

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[Stefan]

]_<"One, the discussions play less of a role in the Gaians. They're the by-product of the discussions, which was an extremeist eco-terrorist faction that was blinkered to more liberal arguments. You have to be if you're going to justify your actions. That's how they were founded anyway... Much alike the Hessians, who started with good intentions.

Yeh, you're right actually. The fact is I'm used to RP as the NLH, not the pirate extremist. You'll only find me on Edinburgh, preying on Planetformers and preaching whenever I actually find a player there. That said, I'm used to the politic speech. Missed the big picture, have I.

Two. The extremeist enviromentalist are a dying/dead breed. The Gaian newer generation is a full blooded piracy outfit. No morals, just piracy. Generally speaking these new Gaians don't give a damn about terraforming, Planetform or OSC. It saddens me that Gaian factions always try to take the good-guy option, rather than what the faction actually is...

Actually this is something I have been thinking of... But the lack of players withing this line of reason had discouraged me. Hm. The idea of turning totally towards Bio Terrorism + acting as a support line for the Kusarian Forces have been pounding on my head for a while.

Three. Any potential for the Gaians to return to an extremeist anti-terraforming organisation was more or less bulldozed by the war. To successfully acheive their goals, they need popular support. They sided with Kusari and lost every single vestige of popular support they may have had. You can't claim to have the population on your side when you're killing their soldiers, and helping the people that are trying to conquer them. Equally, the Gaians will have destroyed any influence they had in Parliment, because their actions would have marginalised the Green Front and polarised opinion against them. Honestly, the Green Front needs the Gaians like a hole in the head at the moment.

That may have led to a separtism between political groups, yes, but as stated, since The Green Front always took care of the politics and Gaians of the guerilla aproach, they didn't really lose territory.

EDIT: Four. If you're going to play hardline enviromentalist, you should hate Kusari just as much as Bretonia. There are more terraforming projects in Kusari than in Bretonia. Samura is a terraforming organisation.

As far as I know, Gaians have operated much more in Bretonia than Kusarian space. Any situation of this kind, coming from that side either has not been seen, not talked about or have been simply ignored so far. I, for once, am not aware of more terraforming spots than in Bret. Besides, they have a bigger threat on Bretonia already. Not only that but I'm sure Bretonian ships have some sort of windshield cleaners, 'cause every system there is more poluted than a trash bin - comparing them to Kusari is like comparing Hell to Heaven.

[Marburg]

One of the cool things about the Gaians is that they are still wide open for development...As long as a person takes the available info about them provided by the infocards as a baseline, there ain't nothin' wrong with coloring outside the lines & trying something different.

That said, if y'all come up with something unique & cool, I'll be one of your biggest cheerleaders.

The way I see them:

There is a deep schism within the faction between the stereotypical Corsair allied Neo-Gaians & the old school Grass Roots Gaians. This is because the Gaians became militant only 77 years ago & it's logical that many of the people that started the transition to ideological violence would still be alive today & hold some sway within Gaian society.

Beyond that, it's also logical that by now, the offspring of the original Gaians would have adult offspring of their own. Considering that many of the 2nd generation & all of the present 3rd generation are native, & have lived their entire lives outside the law on Gaian property, they would be heavily indoctrinated with the old-school mentality they were raised with by their elders...& without ever holding true Bretonian citizenship, they would not have any patriotic leanings to the crown whatsoever.

For those non-natives that joined the Gaians by choice, it's a different story for each & every one of them, but there's bound to be friction in the ranks, originating from when the ugly Corsair Zeitgeist reared its head in Edinburgh & took a firm hold.

I could go on & on, but everything else I imagine about Gaian culture as a whole simply stems from all of this.

::Edit- Also, even though this opinion could warrant a thread if its own, I'd like to add that IMHO, a person can play 2 seperate Gaian characters that are so ideologically opposed to one another, that it teeters on the cusp of hatred of one another::

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[... kur nubėgo?]

Neither Gaians or Corsairs factions are RAAAAAAAAAAAAGE pirates

Sorry but.. .LOLWUT?

Did I skip something? Corsairs are no longer fierce pirates, since then?

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[Stefan]

Sorry but.. .LOLWUT?

Did I skip something? Corsairs are no longer fierce pirates, since then?

I have no idea what you are trying to state, but trying to keep things civil:

With not being "rage" pirates I meant that both factions have purposes and principles. Seems some of us lack those.

I mean, the ability to see them, of course.

[looqas]

Personally I would like to see Gaians active more and I have to say that why not join NHL?

You could be the leader in notime if no-one else shows up. Besides you would get almost all the benefits the NHL has built in place already. They got a tag that most recocnize even though have rarely seen in-game, they got the msg dump, they got the lore. In a word. All they need is activity. I'm sure no-one minds you coming and starting to breathe life into it.

But it's your call really.

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