Total Peace? Ew!

[TLI-Inferno]

When did the Liberty-Rheinland war started? I mean what year ingame. If the Nomad war was fought in 801 or so, and it's now 820, at least there should have been some time for Rheinland to recover something. If we admit that pre-nomad war, Rheinland was being induced to overbuild in anticipation to a war, that means that their strength was well above the needed to defend their territory.

If Rheinland had for example, say, 15 years (802 to 815 or 816) to economically and military recover, I think it would had at least some strength to hold his position, even if they couldn't advance against Liberty better preparation.

Even if Rheinland could deploy less assets than the mighty Liberty, it could very well stop their advance with superior tactics and equipment for the situations presented (like GMG did). Unless New Berlin was being raided everyday, I doubt that a military command would resort to desperation tactics like the ones employed on the gates.

I think the great depression and World War II in real life are proof of how quickly nations can recover.

Yeah, I know, "It's a game, it's not real life", yeah, whatever, the people in the game are still human beings, and governments still work the same way, the experience of life still applies.

Rheinland is not a special snowflake

You're right, it isn't. Nobody's asking for special treatment for Rheinland. In fact, we're asking for the opposite; what we're sick of is the real special snowflake, and whether you want to admit it or not we both know who that is.

[tothebonezone]

And over in Rheinland, which was kicking Liberty's butts almost every time, suddenly has lore written that they are "losing" and "retreating" and "shut off their jumpgates" to keep liberty out, when in reality I have a feeling some liberty folks were getting sick of losing and didn't want to admit it;

As a spectator and participant of both sides of the war--

Rheinland literally just had more cloaking turtles than Liberty had dreads, and then backup in the form of totally not re-engaging bombers would show up if the turtles did lose.

But as for why Rheinland is losing?

They're getting no trade from Bretonia, who needs all of their resources to fund their own war. They're getting no resources from Liberty who was already the richest lord of the land, and they're getting probably severely hampered trade with Kusari, whom of which is bottlenecked through a few choice systems, where pirates will be flocking to, to eat the transports. EDIT: I would suppose they get *some* trade from Gallia, but the bottleneck remains, and that's a seriously long distance for something to go wrong logistically.

Not only that, they threw out the only corporation that provides compensation for lost trade goods, the sectors largest loans, and is basically comparable to the World bank of today. No loans, no insurance for lost cargo, butchered trade, fights on ALL fronts (Corsairs, in house pirates, Liberty, Wilde, SCRA)

Liberty might not be in a much better trading position than Rheinland, but they sure as hell didn't alienate Interspace.

As for Peace? Meh. Nomads will show up in force again I bet.

and whether you want to admit it or not we both know who that is.

Gallia?

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[Sciamach]

As for Peace? Meh. Nomads will show up in force again I bet.

I'm down.

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[Ryummel]

Go make a sandwich

Maybe once you have eaten your sandwich

How the hell did you guys know I was making a sandwich?

I was expecting a reply from you to my last post, but I'll assume that your own nonsense related to Texasburg already burnt you out. That and the retarded 'shoot-and-bleed-out' analogies.

As I said, you'd do better by insisting to devs in placing the starting point away from Pennsylvania.

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[Binski]

It seems reasonable that Leeds falling to Gallia would continue to build Gallia up as the villian of the current plot, giving much reason for inrp anger and resistance to their juggernaut advance into Sirius (even if they weren't/aren't out pewing the Bretts now, I dunno, are they?). I think peace can be made between Liberty and Rhienland, but only after the Nomads return in force to push them into overcoming their now deeply rooted hatred of each other. Even that may only be a temporary thing. In the meantime, Kusari and Bretonia entering into any form of an Alliance may indicate they are finally leaning back towards the Sirius Houses rather than lining up with Gallia. I'd like to see that, maybe after Gallia 'Pearl Harbour's them in an attempt to knock them down first.

"Then Bretonia has an event in which they basically ally with Kusari."

If that becomes solid and known you see no seed for conflict with Gallia?

Gallia and Kusari are at peace.
Gallia and Bretonia in an apparently irreconcilable war.
Kusari and Bretonia ally and you see no reason why this may give Gallia concern?

To me that means the next logical shift in the balance will be Kusari's involvement in the war. There is also a lot of civil strife and internal conflict in Kusari at this time it seems, war's can make it easy for governments to fall to coups as well. Perhaps the Emperor's loyalists will be able to regain power.

Either way, it seems something is needed to shift things the other way, Gallia needs to be driven back and basically defeated. Collapse Gallia info smaller regions and let Sirius colonize Gallia.

I have heard then that it is expected there will be another Nomad war. I look forward to this. We should have a year or so where factions not normally involved in 'wars' like junkers or zoners, need to begin fighting, even alongside old enemies, as the Nomads penetrate deep into the colonies and populated areas.

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[Highland Laddie]

Just a quick re-emphasis:

Bretonia and Kusari are NOT allied now. Their governments have been at peace/armistice since back in 4.86. All that has changed with the new Trade Agreement is their corporate policies are trying to catch back up with the diplomacy.

So yeah....quit saying they are allies....because they're not. At least no more than Bretonia and Rheinland are allied....which they are not.

[SnakeLancerHaven]

Also let me add this too, kinda found a way to make Gallia actually enjoyable.

OC vs Sairs (if the JH's gets fixed), Rheinland vs Liberty (if JG's get fixed), Kusari vs Bretonia (if Council manages to put a big hole into GRN and make them retreat), **** vs SCRA (No Spoilers ) , Nomads vs ********* (No Spoilers either xD)
[11:29:49] SnakeLancer™: What you basicly have here is activities on many fronts
[11:30:49] SnakeLancer™: OC vs Sairs (Outer Omicrons), Rheinland vs Liberty (House: Liberty, Rheinland) , Kusari vs Bretonia (House: Kusari, Bretonia even Taus), an active Council vs GRN (up in Gallia), **** vs SCRA (in the Omegas, with Hessians and others) , Nomads vs ********* (in deeper Omicrons)



Don't worry I just mentioned major factions . another topic is also Council vs GRN, that would actually interest me more instead of GRN screwing over all Houses. I tell ya, I'd even log Council just for this and look for GRN in Gallia , but otherways there is no reason to stay in Gallia (unless commodities). Which would make me go #removegallia, but seeing it in this perspective, GRN fighting Council in Gallia would actually be cool and worth logging inside Gallia, or even move up there as Colonial.

Also it's interesting that Rheinland has to retreat to look for their own problems with Pirates, SCRA, Hessians, LWB and so on, but GRN has like absolute no problem? It sounds stupid. GRN should be actually the once which have to retreat because of Council, Maquis, Union Corse and all those causing trouble in Gallia, so they have to deal with them first, in my honest opinion.

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[Thyrzul]

Council vs GRN, that would actually interest me more instead of GRN screwing over all Houses. I tell ya, I'd even log Council just for this and look for GRN in Gallia [...] GRN fighting Council in Gallia would actually be cool and worth logging inside Gallia

The following links might be interesting for you:

• Council Recruitment
  
• A pair of event series to #DeleteGalli... ahem, I mean shaking Gallia up a bit

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