Honestly, I'm interested in hearing how that decision was made as well, as leader of the [LN], it seems pretty irregular to me that Libertonian corporations -- and not the military, would have a better time using Bounty Hunter tech.
Of course it makes sense that BHG tech would find it's way into corporate hands as well, but it's like Justin said, the [LN], and other Liberty Military/Government groups have been using BHG tech for literal years, so...how was it justified that Lib Corps should have it at 90%, and the military/government groups shouldn't?
Also, In response to the redcell on Liberty Navy access to Bretonian capships while granting BAF a 90% cell to Liberty caps, I give you that link up there.
Honestly, I want to know how THAT makes any sense, when -they- were the ones who reached out to us, and offered us ships in return for access to ours.
(07-25-2013, 07:18 AM)Durandal Wrote: I like how the Liberty Navy has 75% core to Bounty Hunter weapons and light ships, which we've had access to with the BHG's blessing for literally years, and DSE, Ageira, and USI have 90% to both. Would love to know your logic behind that one.
I'm going to guess aerelm's intention: roleplay isn't so much a factor here as balance. Corps have 90% on BHG because they don't have much in the way of combat ships outside of generic civilian; whereas LN already has its own full shipline (military ships usually being superior to generic). Also, LN has 90% on Bretonian military gear. Now, I could be wrong, but that's probably why.
(07-25-2013, 07:36 AM)Durandal Wrote: Yeah ok and red cell to Bret caps, legit.
That one is probably an error, given that BAF have a green cell on LN caps.
It looks like the MND ID technerf slots were gutted.
It was assumed that not posting in the recommendations thread meant that we liked things the way that they were, which now seems to be untrue.
With a cursory glance, I have the following:
Please put Kusari lawful weapons at 90, as there is roleplay concerning the exchange of weapons between the BDM and the [KNF].
The technerf on house civilian technology for any of the lawful military/intelligence factions of the patron house is silly - please let it show that military and intelligence factions of a certain house WOULDN'T have issues getting civilian grade equipment and ships of their own house.
(07-25-2013, 07:48 AM)EisenSeele Wrote: ...
It was assumed that not posting in the recommendations thread meant that we liked things the way that they were, which now seems to be untrue.
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Factions have not been "targeted" for not posting in the request thread. I think you'll find that all the intelligence factions have had the same principles applied to them.
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The technerf on house civilian technology for any of the lawful military/intelligence factions of the patron house is silly - please let it show that military and intelligence factions of a certain house WOULDN'T have issues getting civilian grade equipment and ships of their own house.
The technerf is not entirely intended to represent how easily a faction can access a particular technology. MND/RM (and other intel/military factions respectively) have green cells on house civilian tech not to nerf their opportunities, per se, but to give Police and Corporate factions their own distinct strength / advantage with their own tech.
(07-25-2013, 07:47 AM)Echo 7-7 Wrote: I'm going to guess aerelm's intention: roleplay isn't so much a factor here as balance. Corps have 90% on BHG because they don't have much in the way of combat ships outside of generic civilian; whereas LN already has its own full shipline (military ships usually being superior to generic). Also, LN has 90% on Bretonian military gear. Now, I could be wrong, but that's probably why.
That one is probably an error, given that BAF have a green cell on LN caps.
Well Max, the way you explained about BHG tech does make sense...but it's still a little weird.
As for the caps thing, I really hope you're right, as that's initially what I had assumed it to be, an error, hopefully one to be fixed.
(07-25-2013, 07:56 AM)Echo 7-7 Wrote: The technerf is not entirely intended to represent how easily a faction can access a particular technology. MND/RM (and other intel/military factions respectively) have green cells on house civilian tech not to nerf their opportunities, per se, but to give Police and Corporate factions their own distinct strength / advantage with their own tech.
Corporate factions seem to have more green than any house lawful factions - seeing how they generally have access to the BHG, patron house military technologies, and civilian technologies of trade partner houses.
The police already have access to house military technologies with no nerf, in the case of Bret/Lib, have 90% on one anothers' tech, and low nerf on BHG tech.
At least where house intelligence factions are involved, both Corporate and Police factions have many more viable options for technologies without the need to be the only lawfuls to have no nerf on their respective house civilian equipment.
As an aside, I've noticed that the LSF/BIS/KPT have 75% access to all five house civilian light ships, but the MND does not (though the RFP does)- was this a typo?
(07-25-2013, 08:17 AM)EisenSeele Wrote: ...
As an aside, I've noticed that the LSF/BIS/KPT have 75% access to all five house civilian light ships, but the MND does not (though the RFP does)- was this a typo?
i secod jd- how comes the sairs get the "gift" of bretonian and junker tech? the few breton ships we might capture should be better played out via redcell or srp ...and i doubt the junkers as being protective of their stuff would like to share it with others as well.. and we certainly don't want trouble with them.
Also, i strongly disagree with freelancers and pirates getting access- the sairs HATE pirates(rephacked!) that are our competition after all- the same is true for freelancers...sorry, safe for transports 99,9% of all other freelancer you meet are your enemies ....sadly rephacking vs them is not yet an option :-(
also: why did the requested drop of the unlawful generic stuff not happen and the hoggie\fa stuff is still there?