Religion in Freelancer?

[Sarawr!?]

I would imagine that yes, the Coalition is Atheist, after all we are Communists, and -most- if not all Communist Governments tend toward Atheism.

although in terms of Bretonia, I can't remember the name, but there are places in Bretonia that have Cathederal like structures...and what would there be something like that for? if -somebody- didn't use it as a place of Worship?

Religion wouldn't have as much sway as it does here and now maybe, but I am hard pressed to believe that Organized Religion up and completely disappeared in the "Alliance" House Systems.

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[beander2]

I don't really believe Christianity survived. Not really.

I'm not saying Christianity would be gone...

Okay, I was confused... :)

The Bretonian sleeper ship brought about 50 thousand people. These were likely not a random sample of people, but assume that they were. How many of them were likely to be religious? Religious enough to build a church in the new world, teach their children more than to be good to their neighbors, and enjoy the occasional festivals? How many people, today, do that, in Britain?

I don't know stats on practicing Christians in Britain today, though I wouldn't doubt for a moment it was currently on the upswing. Typically, this would occur in low-church settings, as opposed to the higher Anglican or Catholic ones, though they might be experiencing an upsurge, too.

In fact, there are several vibrant theological schools of thought emanating from Great Britain today, and several universities there are considered among the best in theological circles.

Edit: I'm not arguing for dominance in the FL context, btw, but your initial comments suggested an absence of anything theologically substantive, which I found doubtful.

I'm not saying Christianity would be gone...but I don't think it would hold nearly as much sway. I, of course, don't have any first hand experience, but I've always been taught that the world wars killed god in Europe. The coalition was, correct me if I'm wrong, atheist. Their war lasted hundreds of years. People forgot what started it. Thats a horrid, Horrid war, there. It might be hard to embrace the concept of a benevolent universe after something like that.

What we are taught is usually much more about the predispositions of our teachers, educational system, and culture than the material itself. The wars undoubtedly had an effect on regular practice of the faith in Europe, but I'd wager it was neither complete nor lasting.

You are probably right that the notion of a "benevolent universe" would be difficult to swallow, but typically, such a universe would be distinguished from God in these faiths. Moreover, religious faith tends to thrive more in times of suffering than in times of comfort.

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Sir Alisdair Buchanan, KBE ~ Gateway)Trafalgar

[Sarawr!?]

House Run or not, Massive Church Organized or not, I'm sure there is still some kind of Religious Following amongst the population, it's likely a minority of the populations, but still I'm sure there are those people.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Organized Religion really, But I don't think altogether that it would completely just..disappear from the minds of generation of generation of humans in Sirius, sure they're less Religiously aware, that's almost a fact, but there -must- still be believers, in whatever respective religion it is that they choose to follow.

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[Unseelie]

although in terms of Bretonia, I can't remember the name, but there are places in Bretonia that have Cathederal like structures...and what would there be something like that for? if -somebody- didn't use it as a place of Worship?

Religion wouldn't have as much sway as it does here and now maybe, but I am hard pressed to believe that Organized Religion up and completely disappeared in the "Alliance" House Systems.

Didn't say it's disappearing. My whole point is that the religion is more a faith in the House than a faith in god. Though the God bits still exist, I believe that more people are atheist/agnostic/deist and loyal to a faith of nationalism than a faith in Christ.

As to the cathedral structures...The empire state building looks a lot like a cathedral...A very stretched one, but one nonetheless. And if you visit some of the commodity dealers, they're in huge rooms. Massive rooms. Roofs stretching to the sky under cathedral-like vaults..Point being, there are other reasons to build cathedral looking things. Like the fact that if you want a large open space, Cathedrals are the simplest way to build them. Its not my fault that the only thing the economy supported building huge spaces for in the middle ages were churches.

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[Virus]

I don't believe this is accepted RP anymore. I was writing a char story along these lines when I found out this was not the direction Rheinland was being allowed to go.

Although, I would be ecstatic if I were wrong...

Actually... After a bit of discussion with Igiss, it still is. Rheinland is a Fascist Theocracy, where the Gottkanzler is viewed as a god by many, and as the supreme ruler by others. Either way is fine with him, but he doesn't like disloyalty (as you'll notice from a few executions that have happened in the RM's past history).


Out in the border worlds religion might have either died completely or become central focus due to the difficulties of survival. People may either be thanking their respective god, or asking why he wasn't there to save Mr.Corsair1 or Ms.Outcast4.

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[Sarawr!?]

Actually... After a bit of discussion with Igiss, it still is. Rheinland is a Fascist Theocracy, where the Gottkanzler is viewed as a god by many, and as the supreme ruler by others. Either way is fine with him, but he doesn't like disloyalty (as you'll notice from a few executions that have happened in the RM's past history).
Out in the border worlds religion might have either died completely or become central focus due to the difficulties of survival. People may either be thanking their respective god, or asking why he wasn't there to save Mr.Corsair1 or Ms.Outcast4.

Agreed, and along with that, in the other Houses, I still say it's a Minority of the Population that have an actual Religious Following, Even less of them in the Borderworlds.

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[beander2]

Actually... After a bit of discussion with Igiss, it still is. Rheinland is a Fascist Theocracy, where the Gottkanzler is viewed as a god by many, and as the supreme ruler by others. Either way is fine with him, but he doesn't like disloyalty (as you'll notice from a few executions that have happened in the RM's past history).
Out in the border worlds religion might have either died completely or become central focus due to the difficulties of survival. People may either be thanking their respective god, or asking why he wasn't there to save Mr.Corsair1 or Ms.Outcast4.

So we can move forward with Gottkanzler-related RP?

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Sir Alisdair Buchanan, KBE ~ Gateway)Trafalgar

[Cyberanson]

Really strange... I'm struggling with the idea of some fanatic reverend for some time now.

He would be some really hard religious zealot, who would demand contributions from disbelievers and try to proselytize all of the people around him. Maybe I will post some ideas about this guy soon.

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[... kur nubėgo?]

They're Atheist, or Agnostic, or Deist, and they replaced 'religion' with nationalism. Loyalty to the Queen, a desire to make Bretonia a better House, Etc.

Well thats patriotic not nationalistic actually.

Kusari Buddism.. Well I doubt it. As for in space Kusari is kinda isolated. Buddism is main on India nad China. As we know it is Coalition siders. Now who can explain me, how coalition culture) or dead culture since coalition are atheists) can be practicated by opposing house?

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[Capt. Henry Morgan]

I tend to believe that the Outcasts and Corsairs both maintain their own, seperate versions of the Catholic Church. The Maltese Catholics would are further from the traditional, with the Nomads added in on top of the older traditions. I don't believe for a second that the people on the sleeper ships were selected at random, and since the Vatican is in Italy, It's likely that the Pope (or somebody he selected to carry on his role in Sirus) and some other senior members of the church would've gotten on the Hispania.

In Bretonia, I consider it likely that the Church of England would continue in some form. If you read the Bretonian Constitution in detail, you'd notice that we included the Lords Spiritual into the House of Lords. Their role is reduced, even from their current level, with there only being three. They're still there, though.

The House of Lords comprises a variable number of seats, currently standing at 248. These are a combination of the 3 Lords Spiritual; the Bishops of New London, Leeds and Cambridge, the 86 Hereditary Peers, the 5 Law Lords (who all have the automatic status of Life Peers) representing the highest judges in Bretonia, and those Life Peers appointed by the Monarch (see Article VIII - Section 2 below).

Kusari is quite obviously Buddhist, with the giant Buddha's and all. I don't think there's much to debate there.

Liberty doesn't appear to have any particular major religion, but I tend to think that it's much like the modern USA, where people follow a variety of religions. In fact, I'm willing to lay odds that any completely new Sirius religions probably have their roots in Liberty, assuming it maintains the same freedom of Religion that the USA does.

As for Rheinland, I don't think I'm the person most qualified to discuss their religion, since I'm almost never there, except on my Bowex trader.

Zoners are likely to be the most diverse bunch, though, since they're composed of people who wanted to get away from everybody else from one reason or another. New religious communities are the sort of thing I can definately see springing up under the Zoner banner. TAZ is a very good example of that, with their Discordian faith.

Well thats patriotic not nationalistic actually.

What's the difference?

Kusari Buddism.. Well I doubt it. As for in space Kusari is kinda isolated. Buddism is main on India nad China. As we know it is Coalition siders. Now who can explain me, how coalition culture) or dead culture since coalition are atheists) can be practicated by opposing house?

Buddhism is very big in Japan.

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