Talk:Fighters

marsflyer?

someone deleted it why? --Unsigned comment by User:Darthbeck at 18:04, February 25, 2009. Please sign your comments.

The Marsflyer will never have existed in 4.85 and is being replaced by an unrelated ship. As far as I know, it was considered horribly out of place. We could provide archival information on it, for nostalgia perhaps, but it wouldn't serve any truly useful purpose in this wiki. -- Eyvind (talk • contrib) 13:55, 25 February 2009 (MST)

Problem

Manta hull is listed here 10600 and in the actual Manta article 12400. Which one is right? --Looqas 05:44, 14 January 2009 (MST)

Get rid of Pre-Disco Stats?

Stock Vs Discovery

I've been thinking. This is a wiki for Discovery mod right? Anyone who comes here is usually looking for Disco info. So why are we putting Vanilla info in? As an example; it doesn't make sense to me to have Defender AND Defender (original) on this wiki. My feeling is stick with Disco stuff for the majority, as there is a tonne of stuff to put up just with that. We are doubling our work if we want to put the Vanilla variants up also. :( Chovynz 09:18, 21 May 2008 (GMT)

Having vanilla info is just an extra. But it's nice to have it, to compare the changes Discovery has made to them. Nodwick 09:57, 21 May 2008 (GMT)

Formatting

We need to have the ship lists formatted the same way. Currently Freighters is using "Pre-Discovery" while Fighters is using "Stock Fighters". "Pre-Disco" tells me that they are the original ones and shouldn't be in this list. I suggest that these lists are only for the Discovery ones (stock and new). One example of why I say this; Rhino in Vanilla costs around 8,000 whereas in Disco they cost around 43,000 and are sold in different places. Transports doesnt even have any pre-Disco/Stock.

Other ship lists.

• Transports
• Cruisers
• Battleships

Talk copied into Freighters talk Chovynz 03:45, 22 May 2008 (GMT)

I agree with this. www.battleclinic.com handles Vanilla brilliantly, if people want stuff from vanilla point them there.Sovereign 02:37, 27 May 2008 (GMT)

Dealt with Chovynz 07:30, 2 August 2008 (GMT)

Get rid of Pre-Disco Stats?

It seems to me that this'll just confuse people if we keep on mixing everything, so I propose we get rid of Pre-Disco stuff altogether (i.e. no separating into stock and Disco-added fighters). That's what the Freelancer wiki is for, but this isn't for the vanilla game, so I don't see a reason to have those stats. What're your opinions on this? F15pilotX 14:20 GMT, 29 May 2008

I agree with this. I think we should just put them into their classes instead of splitting the ships according to Stock and Disco. So what we'll end up with is, a list of Light fighters, Heavy fighters, Very heavy fighters, and no Stock or Disco. I'm willing to do this myself. One other thing is we have a double up of some of the fighters, (Talon, Sabre, Eagle are in both Stock lists and Disco lists. I was going to take them out of the Disco list, and then thought why dont we just merge the two lists.) Chovynz 07:19, 2 August 2008 (GMT)

Format for posting (Use the "Edit" function to see it)

Name	Weapons	Cargo	Hull	NB/SB	Price	Notes
Example 1	6/1	75	18200	65	$2,000,000	Example, doesn't exist in game

Add a weapon class column?

If someone thinks this is a good idea and is willing to add it, go ahead.

The above, unsigned entry was made by User:Chovynz.

I like it this way, to be honest.

Nodwick 09:57, 21 May 2008 (GMT)

I was wondering if anyone had that idea. I might be willing to try adding a weapon class column if the mods don't mind. Darth vader 19:53, 7 August 2010 (MDT)

Links & Individual Fighter Pages

I've linked all the ships to their respective pages, whether those pages exist or not, and set up the pages for all Disco VHFs, the Executioner, and a good chunk of the MK II LFs.

--Adamantine Fist 02:58, 31 May 2008 (GMT)

Vanilla stats (and Crusader)

Hello! Crusader was left out in the stock ships, so I added it. I wrote the Disco stats in, and then realized vanilla stats are used there... So now the Crusader has "wrong" stats... I don't know the vanilla stats, so I can't repair it.

But I also don't understand why the vanilla stats are used there instead of the discovery stats? Because stats of the modified ships are nowhere in the article. I would understand it if the modified ships were somewhere else on the page... still, I am new on the wiki, so I don't really know your intentions with the page. (Edit (2nd): it seems just several ships have vanilla stats in the table) — MarvinCZ 13:49, 5 July 2008 (GMT)

Merge

I like the merged list. It didn't make much sense keeping it separated when both lists were essentially Disco ships. If it stays this way, we will have to edit "ship class" links on individual pages (i.e from #Heavy_Fighters_2 to #Heavy_Fighters), but let's wait until it's certain it stays merged. MarvinCZ 13:28, 2 August 2008 (GMT)

Removed Ships

Many ships have been removed from all bases and basically deprecated. Should we remove these ships from the current lists or mark them as unpurchasable in 4.85?

Specific ship sale locations are not to be listed, only the systems they are sold in. See Wiki Editing Rules

-Tazuras 18:04, 22 June 2009 (MDT)

But some ships, such as the Battlestar Advanced, are no longer purchasable from any base. I know we don't list the base, just the system, but many ships are not to be found anywhere. I was asking if they should be cleared from the wiki or if they will remain as something for Admins to give for special RP reasons and thus should be kept for reference purposes?

-Jordanclock 0:13 23 June 2009 (MDT)

oops, my mistake. non-purchasable ships that are still in the game should remain in the wiki. They are usually still used, just not by many. Yoda may use a Battlestar Advanced for instance.

--Tazuras 00:22, 23 June 2009 (MDT)