' Wrote:The Corsairs need to pick a front for expansion and stick to it - and not spread themselves too thin if they want it to last.
For a push into Rheinland, the Corsairs should consider cutting a firm deal with the Unioners - and use their base in Munich as a rally point.
The Corsairs could even establish a secret base in southern Sigma-13, another rallying point. Yanagi is no good as it is a 'public' base.
I doubt that would work. Unioners are allied to the Red Hessians and they even broke off a former alliance with the Corsairs for some unknown reason.
Unlike the Outcasts, who have a Mafia-like network of alliances with pirates in every Sirian House, the Corsairs' allies are small bands of terrorists or gangsters that are ill-equipped to aid the Corsairs in taking over an entire nation.
Out of the two possible Houses that the Corsairs could attack (Bretonia and Rheinland), I would say that Bretonia is actually a better nation to target. There are no viable allies for the Corsairs in Rheinland, but in Bretonia, the Corsairs are allied with the Gaians (although I have no idea where the lore for this alliance came from) and have a chance of allying with the Gallic Royal Navy and launching a joint attack on Bretonia.
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Hello. This topic sounds like something i have long in mind(proposed this some time before).
I like the idea to attack chembridge. Dont see any reason why it cannot be done.
Bretornia is already in bad condition for the long war with kusari and now they are facing a huge fleet of gallia. They have already lost edinbaurgh. Not good position in leeds. So being greatly outnumbered they are defending against the gallic invasion with the help of kusari exiles and council exiles. So logically other borders are not well defended..or say lightly defended. Now its look like a perfect staging ground
Of a corsair invasion while we have a well populated base cadiz to launch the attack.
While bretornia detects approching corsair the BPA comes to defend chembridge with whatever they have but that was not enough. Getting pinned under heavy corsair fire they call rheinland for help. Rheinland sends there reserve fleet toward chembridge through omega 3,7. Taking this as a perfect oppertunity Hessains invade dersden and took part of it Leipez and the next 2 station(forgot the name). Rheinland call back there fleet to berlin for counter hessains but could not breach hessains defence line. They place a battleship in dersden at the jumpgate to prevent further incursion.
Now corsairs attack and capture planet chembridge. Cryer evacuted chembridge reaserch station with the news of invasion so corsairs got that too. Now insted of pushing further they concentrated on building defences. Corsairs put one legate(the first stationary one) and multiple wepon platform and nearby trade lanes destryed.
I think, that even after war against Kusari, Bretonia still to huge pice of cake for corsair's mouth.
Just for example- Corsairs determin to strike Cambridge. They moved 75% of their forces to Omga 5 and then launched attack.
Even there, they could encouter hessians cooperating with SCRA forces, who arent blind and has their inteligence and recon units. Probably, there will be first loses. Second option will be strike from back, after Corsairs engaged BAF. Dont forget about Mollys. They will rise for fight against Corsairs, no dobut in that.
There no options to invade House space and base here. Presence of Corsairs will be strong uniting factor for defending forces. In general, we will have BAF, RH, probably SCRA, Molly and some mercs, against Corsairs, and probably Gajans. Not an option at all.
Lets check Dublin.
Molly, BAF, IMG and bret civil. Assaulting Battleships................:crazy:
But not bad option to strike Molly base there. Base not so far from JH to Omega 49, so if something goes wrong, retreat wont be long. But this wont be expansion. It will be like hit and run. Fast, unexpected strike and fast retreat to avoid encouter with larger force. Otherwise, time will work against them.
Same with Rheinland. Just to mention, that RM not in such deep <strike>sh</strike> crap, like BAF. Together with Hessians... Corsairs has no chances against them at all.
Omegas... More likely to strike.
In my opinion, corsairs can strike those remoted bases in Omega 3.
Cadiz can provide main supply for striking force and shelter, when they need to fall back. Posibility, to encouter house military there will be less- bases are far from JG, and bring forces to Omega 3 will takes some time for them.
Still, this how I see this question in RP.
Since where Corsairs dont have force to match any BAFs? Kusari war and Gallia now is too much for em, so Dublin is quite easy target for Corsairs. As I remember correct Sairs dont need dirty Leeds and London, just gold fields
Rheinland is not good for Corsairs to be taken, yet... Omega 7 and 11 is very good targets, also Omega 15 and Drezden.
Take control over House borders is not so hard as you can think. With all those wars houses not so strong as before, but sairs have many enemys on their back as well. Also, as in vanilla sayes: Hogosha will make few things that will move KNF to Sigmas to prevent Outcast attack on Gamma, and FA will target em in Taus if what. And Gaians will gladly help Sairs to defeat severall enemys in Bretonia.
Sairs have force to make this assault yes, just players usually sucks, untill Official factions will give orders to all Corsairs all invasion will not start
' Wrote:Since where Corsairs dont have force to match any BAFs? Kusari war and Gallia now is too much for em, so Dublin is quite easy target for Corsairs. As I remember correct Sairs dont need dirty Leeds and London, just gold fields
Rheinland is not good for Corsairs to be taken, yet... Omega 7 and 11 is very good targets, also Omega 15 and Drezden.
Take control over House borders is not so hard as you can think. With all those wars houses not so strong as before, but sairs have many enemys on their back as well. Also, as in vanilla sayes: Hogosha will make few things that will move KNF to Sigmas to prevent Outcast attack on Gamma, and FA will target em in Taus if what. And Gaians will gladly help Sairs to defeat severall enemys in Bretonia.
Sairs have force to make this assault yes, just players usually sucks, untill Official factions will give orders to all Corsairs all invasion will not start
Houses use up the resources of entire systems within a couple of centuries.
The Corsairs haven't even used up that one small field in Gamma in 800 years.
We're comparing oranges and apples here, the Houses are vastly more powerful than any other factional entity.
The GMG managed to win due to guerilla warfare in their home and it took 80 years to do so.
The Corsairs will be flying straight into the heartland of Bretonia.
Cambridge is just too defended.
1. They are starving, therefore they have such a big problem on their own which means they can't fight.
- Perhaps in some "civilized" house this would be seen as problem. You know, human rights, social care and so on. Corsairs do not have any, nor care about. They kill and sterelize their own people. Simply because there is too many of them. Which also means sending people to die in some warfront is not a loss. There is little regard to human life be it corsair be it foreigner if person hadn't proved it's worth. Someone died? - newborn will have what to eat.
There is more mourning about a lost ship than a pilot.
It's really a very intresting thing, how factions weakness can become one of it's strenghs.
2. They are waging war on multiple fronts, they should have been beaten by now.
- It's expension of influence, not -real- territorical claims really. So forget about full scale military operations. It's not warfronts, just raiding piraties who are trying to venture further and deeper into house space. Alltough there are some plans but they are far from reality.
Also, Corsairs without food shortage would lose their primary trait which makes this faction so awsome:cool:
' Wrote:What would really help the Corsairs, though, would be the removal of the exceedingly silly Lisburn Rock. It's right in the middle of Corsair patrol paths in a system with no Mollies. How much sillier can you get!?
Well except the fact that Cambridge is Molly Infested and one of the favorite places to pirate as Molly and that our Hessian and SCRA allys are one jump away,not to mention that here is Omega 5 Listed- actually Mollys and Hessians work together in RP vs Corsairs in O5- even on small scale since Mollys in RP does not have so many ships/pilots to deploy whole battle squadron there.
I would agree with you that Lisburn Rock shall fall but this could only happen if Corsairs remove the hessians in Omega 5- now they actually loose there in RP and fight defensive war. Cambridge is stalemate at the moment for all involved parties, Mollys does not have the strength and the numbers to attack, they are defending mostly, Corsairs does have the strength to attack but if they do so the Hessians would back-stab them really hard in Omega 5, BAF have Gallics so they are defending only.
As far as I know the Corsairs got nice hit with Casablanca base. So I guess in RP after taking Casablanca the corsair main force would strike in Dublin using Omega 49 or will strike in Omega 5 to reinforce Cadiz.
Henri Corsairs are not in any way weak- they got just too many enemies and most of their enemies are allies against them. Take situation in Omega 3 for example- Molly ship, BAF ship and Corsair ship- if the corsair is not there it is likely that Molly and BAF would fight, at the Moment when the Corsair is there both Molly and BAF would shoot him first, and they probably will get help from let say Hessian or SCRA or any cooperate escort around.
' Wrote:when corsairs expand and take over planet cambridge or stuttgart - what then? when they finally have food to feast on? they would defend against entire fleets of military ships inside enemy territory. how long do you think it would last?
This is really relative question. In Cambridge case if BAF decides that Corsairs are priority 1 then it would last 1-2 weeks maximum, but if they have other priorities you got the Belfast case: http://discoverygc.com/wiki/Belfast_Prod..._Facility- A base in the middle of House space that is taken by force from unlawful faction.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
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