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==Get rid of Pre-Disco Stats?==
 
==Get rid of Pre-Disco Stats?==
It seems to me that this'll just confuse people if we keep on mixing everything, so I propose we get rid of Pre-Disco stuff altogether (i.e. no separating into stock and Disco-added fighters). That's what the Freelancer wiki is for, but this isn't for the vanilla game, so I don't see a reason to have those stats. What're your opinions on this? [[F15pilotX]] 14:20 GMT, 29 May 2008
 
 
:I agree with this. I think we should just put them into their classes instead of splitting the ships according to Stock and Disco. So what we'll end up with is, a list of Light fighters, Heavy fighters, Very heavy fighters, and no Stock or Disco. I'm willing to do this myself. One other thing is we have a double up of some of the fighters, (Talon, Sabre, Eagle are in both Stock lists and Disco lists. I was going to take them out of the Disco list, and then thought why dont we just merge the two lists.) [[User:Chovynz|Chovynz]] 07:19, 2 August 2008 (GMT)
 
 
 
===Stock Vs Discovery===
 
===Stock Vs Discovery===
I've been thinking. This is a wiki for Discovery mod right? Anyone who comes here is usually looking for Disco info. So why are we putting Vanilla info in? As an example; it doesn't make sense to me to have [[Defender]] AND [[Defender (original)]] on this wiki. My feeling is stick with Disco stuff for the majority, as there is a tonne of stuff to put up just with that. We are doubling our work if we want to put the Vanilla variants up also. :(
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I've been thinking. This is a wiki for Discovery mod right? Anyone who comes here is usually looking for Disco info. So why are we putting Vanilla info in? As an example; it doesn't make sense to me to have [[Defender]] AND [[Defender (original)]] on this wiki. My feeling is stick with Disco stuff for the majority, as there is a tonne of stuff to put up just with that. We are doubling our work if we want to put the Vanilla variants up also. :( [[User:Chovynz|Chovynz]] 09:18, 21 May 2008 (GMT)
  
[[User:Chovynz|Chovynz]] 09:18, 21 May 2008 (GMT)
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:Having vanilla info is just an extra. But it's nice to have it, to compare the changes Discovery has made to them. [[User:Nodwick|Nodwick]] 09:57, 21 May 2008 (GMT)
 
 
Having vanilla info is just an extra. But it's nice to have it, to compare the changes Discovery has made to them.
 
 
 
[[User:Nodwick|Nodwick]] 09:57, 21 May 2008 (GMT)
 
  
 
===Formatting===
 
===Formatting===
We need to have the ship lists formatted the same way. Currently [[Freighters]] is using "Pre-Discovery" while [[Fighters]] is using "Stock Fighters". "Pre-Disco" tells me that they are the original ones and shouldn't be in this list. I suggest that these lists are only for the Discovery ones (stock and new). One example of why I say this; Rhino in Vanilla costs around 8,000 whereas in Disco they cost around 43,000 and are sold in different places. Transports doesnt even have any pre-Disco/Stock.
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<s>We need to have the ship lists formatted the same way. Currently [[Freighters]] is using "Pre-Discovery" while [[Fighters]] is using "Stock Fighters". "Pre-Disco" tells me that they are the original ones and shouldn't be in this list. I suggest that these lists are only for the Discovery ones (stock and new). One example of why I say this; Rhino in Vanilla costs around 8,000 whereas in Disco they cost around 43,000 and are sold in different places. Transports doesnt even have any pre-Disco/Stock.
  
 
Other ship lists.
 
Other ship lists.
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*[[Cruisers]]
 
*[[Cruisers]]
 
*[[Battleships]]
 
*[[Battleships]]
Talk copied into Freighters talk
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Talk copied into Freighters talk</s> [[User:Chovynz|Chovynz]] 03:45, 22 May 2008 (GMT)
  
[[User:Chovynz|Chovynz]] 03:45, 22 May 2008 (GMT)
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I agree with this.  www.battleclinic.com handles Vanilla brilliantly, if people want stuff from vanilla point them there.[[User:Sovereign|Sovereign]] 02:37, 27 May 2008 (GMT)
  
I agree with this.  www.battleclinic.com handles Vanilla brilliantly, if people want stuff from vanilla point them there.
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:Dealt with [[User:Chovynz|Chovynz]] 07:30, 2 August 2008 (GMT)
  
[[User:Sovereign|Sovereign]] 02:37, 27 May 2008 (GMT)
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===Get rid of Pre-Disco Stats?===
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It seems to me that this'll just confuse people if we keep on mixing everything, so I propose we get rid of Pre-Disco stuff altogether (i.e. no separating into stock and Disco-added fighters). That's what the Freelancer wiki is for, but this isn't for the vanilla game, so I don't see a reason to have those stats. What're your opinions on this? [[F15pilotX]] 14:20 GMT, 29 May 2008
  
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:I agree with this. I think we should just put them into their classes instead of splitting the ships according to Stock and Disco. So what we'll end up with is, a list of Light fighters, Heavy fighters, Very heavy fighters, and no Stock or Disco. I'm willing to do this myself. One other thing is we have a double up of some of the fighters, (Talon, Sabre, Eagle are in both Stock lists and Disco lists. I was going to take them out of the Disco list, and then thought why dont we just merge the two lists.) [[User:Chovynz|Chovynz]] 07:19, 2 August 2008 (GMT)
  
  
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== Add a weapon class column? ==
 
== Add a weapon class column? ==
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--[[User:Adamantine Fist|Adamantine Fist]] 02:58, 31 May 2008 (GMT)
 
--[[User:Adamantine Fist|Adamantine Fist]] 02:58, 31 May 2008 (GMT)
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== Vanilla stats (and Crusader) ==
 
== Vanilla stats (and Crusader) ==

Revision as of 07:30, 2 August 2008

Get rid of Pre-Disco Stats?

Stock Vs Discovery

I've been thinking. This is a wiki for Discovery mod right? Anyone who comes here is usually looking for Disco info. So why are we putting Vanilla info in? As an example; it doesn't make sense to me to have Defender AND Defender (original) on this wiki. My feeling is stick with Disco stuff for the majority, as there is a tonne of stuff to put up just with that. We are doubling our work if we want to put the Vanilla variants up also. :( Chovynz 09:18, 21 May 2008 (GMT)

Having vanilla info is just an extra. But it's nice to have it, to compare the changes Discovery has made to them. Nodwick 09:57, 21 May 2008 (GMT)

Formatting

We need to have the ship lists formatted the same way. Currently Freighters is using "Pre-Discovery" while Fighters is using "Stock Fighters". "Pre-Disco" tells me that they are the original ones and shouldn't be in this list. I suggest that these lists are only for the Discovery ones (stock and new). One example of why I say this; Rhino in Vanilla costs around 8,000 whereas in Disco they cost around 43,000 and are sold in different places. Transports doesnt even have any pre-Disco/Stock.

Other ship lists.

Talk copied into Freighters talk Chovynz 03:45, 22 May 2008 (GMT)

I agree with this. www.battleclinic.com handles Vanilla brilliantly, if people want stuff from vanilla point them there.Sovereign 02:37, 27 May 2008 (GMT)

Dealt with Chovynz 07:30, 2 August 2008 (GMT)

Get rid of Pre-Disco Stats?

It seems to me that this'll just confuse people if we keep on mixing everything, so I propose we get rid of Pre-Disco stuff altogether (i.e. no separating into stock and Disco-added fighters). That's what the Freelancer wiki is for, but this isn't for the vanilla game, so I don't see a reason to have those stats. What're your opinions on this? F15pilotX 14:20 GMT, 29 May 2008

I agree with this. I think we should just put them into their classes instead of splitting the ships according to Stock and Disco. So what we'll end up with is, a list of Light fighters, Heavy fighters, Very heavy fighters, and no Stock or Disco. I'm willing to do this myself. One other thing is we have a double up of some of the fighters, (Talon, Sabre, Eagle are in both Stock lists and Disco lists. I was going to take them out of the Disco list, and then thought why dont we just merge the two lists.) Chovynz 07:19, 2 August 2008 (GMT)


Format for posting (Use the "Edit" function to see it)

Name Weapons Cargo Hull NB/SB Price Notes
Example 1 6/1 75 18200 65 $2,000,000 Example, doesn't exist in game


Add a weapon class column?

If someone thinks this is a good idea and is willing to add it, go ahead.

The above, unsigned entry was made by User:Chovynz.

I like it this way, to be honest.

Nodwick 09:57, 21 May 2008 (GMT)


Links & Individual Fighter Pages

I've linked all the ships to their respective pages, whether those pages exist or not, and set up the pages for all Disco VHFs, the Executioner, and a good chunk of the MK II LFs.

--Adamantine Fist 02:58, 31 May 2008 (GMT)


Vanilla stats (and Crusader)

Hello! Crusader was left out in the stock ships, so I added it. I wrote the Disco stats in, and then realized vanilla stats are used there... So now the Crusader has "wrong" stats... I don't know the vanilla stats, so I can't repair it.

But I also don't understand why the vanilla stats are used there instead of the discovery stats? Because stats of the modified ships are nowhere in the article. I would understand it if the modified ships were somewhere else on the page... still, I am new on the wiki, so I don't really know your intentions with the page. (Edit (2nd): it seems just several ships have vanilla stats in the table) — MarvinCZ 13:49, 5 July 2008 (GMT)