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:-[[User:Cshake|cshake]] 22:14, 24 September 2009 (MDT)
 
:-[[User:Cshake|cshake]] 22:14, 24 September 2009 (MDT)
  
{{Quote|Found the reason the Osiris wasn't showing up in the generator, shiparch.ini is missing linear_drag for it, which should be forwarded to the Devs as a bug. I'm assuming it to be 1 now, since it is 1 for all other ships. The tool you requested is now ready to use as well. (All types of content generation can now be found at http://www.cshake.homeip.net/flwiki/, I set up a selection redirect page there. If you could update the sidebar that would be cool.) -cshake 23:11, 3 October 2009 (MDT) }}
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====Content Errors====
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The Hornviper MK I and MK II are both listed as beeing sold on Red Hessian bases by the content generator. FLstat disagrees [http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=67086&st=2]. I have verified this using FLstat. [[User:Tazuras|Tazuras]] 12:02, 4 May 2010 (MDT)
  
That's not quite correct. Osiris ''linear_drag'' is there in shiparch.ini, but it's in a different location. There are two Osiris'es in the Shiparch. The one listed here is the Vanilla one. The Discovery Osiris has the same ''linear_drag'' value and in the same place.
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Fixed, turns out it was finding "rh_gun01_mark04" at the red hessian bases because they sell "fc_rh_gun01_mark04". Oops. [[:User:Cshake|~cshake]] <sup>([[:User_Talk:Cshake|talk]]) (sysop)</sup> 13:37, 4 May 2010 (MDT)
  
How is your tool searching for values? By line number or field name?
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=== Class 7 Nomad Turrets ===
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As per your request, here's a link to how I handled it on the DUSA wiki: [http://wiki.discovery-usa.com/?title=Class_7_Turrets Class 7  Turrets] [[RogueCharlie| ~RogueCharlie~ ]] <sup>([[User_talk:RogueCharlie|Blabs]] • [[Special:Contributions/RogueCharlie|Ego]]) </sup> 04:41, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
  
{| style="background: transparent; border: transparent width="100%"
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=== Asco Torpedo ===
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This item is found in the Missiles list but belongs in the Capital Ship forward Guns page. It is a forward gun for the Gallic Brigands Asco Gunboat.
<pre>[Ship]
 
ids_name = 237018
 
ids_info = 66536
 
ids_info1 = 66537
 
ids_info2 = 66608
 
ids_info3 = 66538
 
ship_class = 1
 
nickname = ge_fighter5
 
msg_id_prefix = gcs_refer_shiparch_hfighter
 
mission_property = can_use_berths
 
LODranges = 0, 150, 300, 2800
 
type = FIGHTER
 
DA_archetype = ships\civilian\cv_elite\cv_elite.cmp
 
material_library = ships\civilian\cv_ships.mat
 
material_library = fx\envmapbasic.mat
 
envmap_material = envmapbasic
 
cockpit = cockpits\civilian\civilian_elite.ini
 
pilot_mesh = generic_pilot
 
nanobot_limit = 43
 
shield_battery_limit = 43
 
mass = 150.000000
 
hold_size = 60
 
        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>linear_drag = 1.000000
 
fuse = intermed_damage_smallship01, 0.000000, 1550
 
fuse = intermed_damage_smallship02, 0.000000, 775
 
fuse = intermed_damage_smallship03, 0.000000, 517
 
max_bank_angle = 30
 
camera_offset = 13, 42
 
camera_angular_acceleration = 0.050000
 
camera_horizontal_turn_angle = 20
 
camera_vertical_turn_up_angle = 5
 
camera_vertical_turn_down_angle = 30
 
camera_turn_look_ahead_slerp_amount = 1.000000
 
hit_pts = 6200
 
explosion_arch = explosion_cv_fighter
 
surface_hit_effects = 0, small_hull_hit_light01, small_hull_hit_light02, small_hull_hit_light03
 
surface_hit_effects = 150, small_hull_hit_medium01, small_hull_hit_medium02, small_hull_hit_medium03
 
surface_hit_effects = 300, small_hull_hit_heavy01, small_hull_hit_heavy02, small_hull_hit_heavy03
 
steering_torque = 55000.000000, 55000.000000, 48000.000000
 
angular_drag = 41000.000000, 41000.000000, 35000.000000
 
rotation_inertia = 8400.000000, 8400.000000, 1000.000000
 
nudge_force = 30000.000000
 
strafe_force = 20000
 
strafe_power_usage = 2
 
bay_door_anim = Sc_open baydoor
 
bay_doors_open_snd = cargo_doors_open
 
bay_doors_close_snd = cargo_doors_close
 
HP_bay_surface = HpBayDoor01
 
HP_bay_external = HpBayDoor02
 
HP_tractor_source = HpTractor_Source
 
num_exhaust_nozzles = 2
 
shield_link = cv_fighter5_shield01, HpMount, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_gun_special_8, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon05
 
hp_type = hp_gun_special_7, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04, HpWeapon05
 
hp_type = hp_gun_special_6, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04, HpWeapon05
 
hp_type = hp_gun_special_5, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04, HpWeapon05
 
hp_type = hp_gun_special_4, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04, HpWeapon05
 
hp_type = hp_gun_special_3, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04, HpWeapon05
 
hp_type = hp_gun_special_2, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04, HpWeapon05
 
hp_type = hp_gun_special_1, HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02, HpWeapon03, HpWeapon04, HpWeapon05
 
hp_type = hp_elite_shield_special_8, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_elite_shield_special_7, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_elite_shield_special_6, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_elite_shield_special_5, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_elite_shield_special_4, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_elite_shield_special_3, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_elite_shield_special_2, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_elite_shield_special_1, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_thruster, HpThruster01
 
hp_type = hp_mine_dropper, HpMine01
 
hp_type = hp_countermeasure_dropper, HpCM01
 
hp_type = hp_turret_special_4, HpTurret01
 
hp_type = hp_turret_special_3, HpTurret01
 
hp_type = hp_turret_special_2, HpTurret01
 
hp_type = hp_turret_special_1, HpTurret01
 
hp_type = hp_torpedo_special_1, HpTorpedo01
 
hp_type = hp_torpedo_special_2, HpTorpedo01
 
explosion_resistance = 0.400000</pre>
 
  
| width="50%" valign="top" style="border: 1px solid #ff7848; padding: .5em 1em; margin: 1em;"|
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Here is how I handled it: [http://wiki.discovery-usa.com/?title=Capital_Ship_Forward_Guns Capital Ship Forward Guns] [[RogueCharlie| ~RogueCharlie~ ]] <sup>([[User_talk:RogueCharlie|Blabs]] • [[Special:Contributions/RogueCharlie|Ego]]) </sup>
<pre>[Ship]
 
ids_name = 237043
 
ids_info = 66584
 
nickname = dsy_nl_co_osiris
 
ship_class = 1
 
LODranges = 0, 600, 800, 1000, 1200, 1500, 2000, 10000
 
msg_id_prefix = gcs_refer_shiparch_Libb
 
mission_property = can_use_large_moors
 
type = FIGHTER
 
DA_archetype = ships\order\or_osiris\or_osiris.cmp
 
material_library = Ships\order\or_ships.mat
 
material_library = fx\envmapbasic.mat
 
envmap_material = envmapbasic
 
explosion_arch = explosion_instant
 
fuse = o_osiris_fuse, 0.000000, 1
 
fuse = or_osiris_burning_fuse03, 0.000000, 17325
 
surface_hit_effects = 0, small_hull_hit_light01, small_hull_hit_light02, small_hull_hit_light03
 
surface_hit_effects = 150, small_hull_hit_medium01, small_hull_hit_medium02, small_hull_hit_medium03
 
surface_hit_effects = 300, small_hull_hit_heavy01, small_hull_hit_heavy02, small_hull_hit_heavy03
 
steering_torque = 250000000.000000, 250000000.000000, 250000000.000000
 
rotation_inertia = 2540999936.000000, 25806999552.000000, 638700032.000000
 
angular_drag = 4000000000.000000, 4000000000.000000, 4000000000.000000
 
linear_drag = 2.000000
 
nudge_force = 360000.000000
 
mass = 100000.000000
 
hold_size = 1000000
 
bay_door_anim = Sc_open baydoor
 
bay_doors_open_snd = hanger_doors_opening
 
bay_doors_close_snd = hanger_doors_closing
 
HP_bay_surface = HpBayDoor01
 
HP_bay_external = HpBayDoor02
 
HP_tractor_source = HpTractor_Source
 
num_exhaust_nozzles = 1
 
shield_link = l_freighter_shield01, HpMount, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_10, HpShield01
 
hit_pts = 700000
 
nanobot_limit = 900
 
shield_battery_limit = 900
 
explosion_resistance = 0.900000</pre>
 
  
|}
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==Thanks==
And here's the contents of my shiparch.ini ->
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I really appreciate what you are doing for this wiki. Thanks man. [[User:Chovynz| ~Chovynz~ ]] <sup>([[User_talk:Chovynz|Blabs]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chovynz|Ego]]) </sup> 12:59, 23 September 2009 (MDT)
{| style="background: transparent; border: transparent width="100%"
 
| width="50%" valign="top" style="border: 1px solid #ff7848; padding: .5em 1em; margin: 1em;"|
 
<pre>[Ship]
 
ids_name = 237043
 
ids_info = 500034
 
ids_info1 = 504656
 
ids_info2 = 458753
 
ids_info3 = 500004
 
ship_class = 2
 
nickname = dsy_or_osiris
 
LODranges = 0, 800, 1200, 1800, 2200, 2800, 5000, 20000
 
msg_id_prefix = gcs_refer_shiparch_Libb
 
mission_property = can_use_med_moors
 
type = FREIGHTER
 
DA_archetype = ships\order\or_osiris\or_osiris.cmp
 
material_library = Ships\order\or_ships.mat
 
material_library = fx\envmapbasic.mat
 
envmap_material = envmapbasic
 
explosion_arch = explosion_instant
 
fuse = o_osiris_player_fuse, 0.000000, 1
 
max_bank_angle = 15
 
fuse = or_osiris_burning_fuse03, 0.000000, 17325
 
surface_hit_effects = 0, small_hull_hit_light01, small_hull_hit_light02, small_hull_hit_light03
 
surface_hit_effects = 150, small_hull_hit_medium01, small_hull_hit_medium02, small_hull_hit_medium03
 
surface_hit_effects = 300, small_hull_hit_heavy01, small_hull_hit_heavy02, small_hull_hit_heavy03
 
steering_torque = 4000000000.000000, 6500000000.000000, 500000000.000000
 
angular_drag = 25000000000.000000, 25000000000.000000, 2500000000.000000
 
rotation_inertia = 1000000000.000000, 2000000000.000000, 200000000.000000
 
nudge_force = 3000000.00000
 
strafe_force = 1000000
 
strafe_power_usage = 2
 
nanobot_limit = 1500
 
shield_battery_limit = 1500
 
mass = 15000.000000
 
hold_size = 1401
 
bay_door_anim = Sc_open baydoor
 
bay_doors_open_snd = hanger_doors_opening
 
bay_doors_close_snd = hanger_doors_closing
 
HP_bay_surface = HpBayDoor01
 
HP_bay_external = HpBayDoor02
 
HP_tractor_source = HpTractor_Source
 
num_exhaust_nozzles = 1
 
hit_pts = 700000
 
cockpit = cockpits\discovery\or_dreadnought.ini
 
pilot_mesh = generic_pilot
 
camera_offset = 72, 450
 
camera_angular_acceleration = 0.010000
 
camera_horizontal_turn_angle = 23
 
camera_vertical_turn_up_angle = 5
 
camera_vertical_turn_down_angle = 30
 
camera_turn_look_ahead_slerp_amount = 1.000000
 
hp_type = hp_turret_special_10, HpTurret_O1_01, HpTurret_O2_01, HpTurret_O4_01, HpTurret_O4_02, HpTurret_O4_03, HpTurret_O4_04, HpTurret_O3_01, HpTurret_O3_02, HpTurret_OM_01, HpTurret_OM_02, HpTurret01, HpTurret02
 
shield_link = l_freighter_shield01, HpMount, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_10, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_9, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_8, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_7, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_6, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_5, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_4, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_3, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_freighter_shield_special_2, HpShield01
 
hp_type = hp_countermeasure_dropper, HpCM01
 
explosion_resistance = 0.900000</pre>
 
|}
 
  
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Hello it's Cyber here, i cant find where to send msn so I have to do this. Thank you for instruction, im reading others' edits to learn the code. About the summaries n previews, I used cellphone so it was a bit annoying. Im willing to help u with more than just review, just teach me.
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U can delete this. Thanks again.
  
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== idea: disclaimer ==
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Quite often I try to explain the tech chart to new players and get 'i read it on the wiki' as the response.
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Prehaps add a disclaimer as part of the template for ships and weapons basicly saying to read the tech chart for the server being used rather than relying on the wiki as an accurate source.
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That, or add to the sidebar a 'server rules' tab, and link to sub-pages for the various servers rules (and delete a servers sub-page or mark as out dated if not updated within a set period of time)
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--[[Image:Muddwiki.png]] [[user:Kashiwaba_Tomoe|Tomoe]] 00:56, 4 August 2010 (MDT)
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:I'm not entirely sure what you mean - ships and weapons here don't say who can use them, just who made them. The only usage notes I can think of here are the disclaimers on battleships saying you need the guard ID to use it. The [[Ship Portal]], [[Ship Equipment]], [[ID]], and other pages include a link to the [[Tech Chart]] page in the first section, which explicitly says that "i read it on the wiki" is not a valid excuse. I admit that it could be more visible, and will add some more links, but I won't go so far as to put it in large red font on the front page (for the sake of all of us that already know).
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:[[:User:Cshake|~cshake]] <sup>([[:User_Talk:Cshake|talk]]) (sysop)</sup> 17:00, 4 August 2010 (MDT)
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---Yeah, all Im saying is make it a tad visable. I dunno how they coulda got what they got from the wiki either, but hey it was folks that actualy listend and read the chart rather than just ignoring or making rude comments for a change, so I cant complain too much. --[[Image:Muddwiki.png]] [[user:Kashiwaba_Tomoe|Tomoe]] 17:09, 4 August 2010 (MDT)
  
  
==Thanks==
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==White BG that went unnoticed==
I really appreciate what you are doing for this wiki. Thanks man. [[User:Chovynz| ~Chovynz~ ]] <sup>([[User_talk:Chovynz|Blabs]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chovynz|Ego]]) </sup> 12:59, 23 September 2009 (MDT)
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Hi, Chris, I just saw that there still is at least one small bit of white BG remaining on the wiki which seems to have stayed unnoticed by us for a while. Anyway, if you want to fix it, its on the search page as it can be seen here: [http://discoveryfl.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=&fulltext=Search] "[[User:Tracky|Tracky]] 04:22, 21 April 2011 (UTC)"
  
== Nice One! ==
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== Come on skype sometime ==
  
We got the whole ID part of the TODO done using that tool! Nice one!--[[User:Alex|Alex]] 07:59, 1 October 2009 (MDT)
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I finally have rights to the wiki server. We can install extensions etc. now at will. --[[User:Blodo|Blodo]] 01:56, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 06:33, 13 January 2012

My content generator

http://cshake.homeip.net/flwiki/

Will change often, if it looks weird or has ugly looking output, I'm probably working on it while you're using it. Leave me a message here if you're unsure if it's producing something usable.

-cshake 22:14, 24 September 2009 (MDT)

Content Errors

The Hornviper MK I and MK II are both listed as beeing sold on Red Hessian bases by the content generator. FLstat disagrees [1]. I have verified this using FLstat. Tazuras 12:02, 4 May 2010 (MDT)

Fixed, turns out it was finding "rh_gun01_mark04" at the red hessian bases because they sell "fc_rh_gun01_mark04". Oops. ~cshake (talk) (sysop) 13:37, 4 May 2010 (MDT)

Class 7 Nomad Turrets

As per your request, here's a link to how I handled it on the DUSA wiki: Class 7 Turrets ~RogueCharlie~ (BlabsEgo) 04:41, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Asco Torpedo

This item is found in the Missiles list but belongs in the Capital Ship forward Guns page. It is a forward gun for the Gallic Brigands Asco Gunboat.

Here is how I handled it: Capital Ship Forward Guns ~RogueCharlie~ (BlabsEgo)

Thanks

I really appreciate what you are doing for this wiki. Thanks man. ~Chovynz~ (BlabsEgo) 12:59, 23 September 2009 (MDT)

Hello it's Cyber here, i cant find where to send msn so I have to do this. Thank you for instruction, im reading others' edits to learn the code. About the summaries n previews, I used cellphone so it was a bit annoying. Im willing to help u with more than just review, just teach me. U can delete this. Thanks again.

idea: disclaimer

Quite often I try to explain the tech chart to new players and get 'i read it on the wiki' as the response. Prehaps add a disclaimer as part of the template for ships and weapons basicly saying to read the tech chart for the server being used rather than relying on the wiki as an accurate source. That, or add to the sidebar a 'server rules' tab, and link to sub-pages for the various servers rules (and delete a servers sub-page or mark as out dated if not updated within a set period of time)

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Tomoe 00:56, 4 August 2010 (MDT)

I'm not entirely sure what you mean - ships and weapons here don't say who can use them, just who made them. The only usage notes I can think of here are the disclaimers on battleships saying you need the guard ID to use it. The Ship Portal, Ship Equipment, ID, and other pages include a link to the Tech Chart page in the first section, which explicitly says that "i read it on the wiki" is not a valid excuse. I admit that it could be more visible, and will add some more links, but I won't go so far as to put it in large red font on the front page (for the sake of all of us that already know).
~cshake (talk) (sysop) 17:00, 4 August 2010 (MDT)

---Yeah, all Im saying is make it a tad visable. I dunno how they coulda got what they got from the wiki either, but hey it was folks that actualy listend and read the chart rather than just ignoring or making rude comments for a change, so I cant complain too much. --

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Tomoe 17:09, 4 August 2010 (MDT)


White BG that went unnoticed

Hi, Chris, I just saw that there still is at least one small bit of white BG remaining on the wiki which seems to have stayed unnoticed by us for a while. Anyway, if you want to fix it, its on the search page as it can be seen here: [2] "Tracky 04:22, 21 April 2011 (UTC)"

Come on skype sometime

I finally have rights to the wiki server. We can install extensions etc. now at will. --Blodo 01:56, 13 January 2012 (UTC)