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==Ships new to Discovery==
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<div><span style="color:red; font-size:x-large; line-height:140%;"> I am no longer working on this wiki in any specific capacity. Please direct all wiki admin messages to [[User:Blodo|Blodo]] or to [[User:Cshake|cshake]] I've left this here as an archive of potentially useful stuff. If you do want to contact me, then leave me a message, but no guarantees on when I'll answer it.</span>
The list of ships that are new in Discovery certainly does not belong into the Ships category as descriptive text.
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If you look at the pages [[Fighters]], [[Freighters]], etc., you'll notice that they are split into stock and Discovery lists. Each ship new to discovery that has a page will have the 'Discovery content' Category set. I think that this list should be merged into those ship types pages.
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[[User:Nodwick|Nodwick]] 11:16, 19 May 2008 (GMT)
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*[[User_talk:Chovynz/Archives 1|Archives 1]]
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*[[User talk:Chovynz/ToDo|My To Do's]] & [[User talk:Chovynz/Sandbox|My sandbox]]
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'''Welcome to my Wiki talk page''' . Here you'll see conversations, discussions and various other guff. Feel free to leave comments or suggestions or replies! Complaints, concerns and friendly abuse are all welcome. Call me a Marshmellow and I'll stick pins in your sandals though.
  
I certainly agree. That's why the list is temporary. It might help us to determine what pages are yet to be made for the ships. I do think that we need this list somewhere but don't know yet where to put it. It doesn't seem to fit any of the current locations. The problem with not having the list is that new players dont know what IS the new ships. The Discovery Content category will have all ships as all ships have been changed in some way (for example the Defender - the only thing that has changed is the selling location - effectively the same ship as in Vanilla FL.
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If there is a specific topic you want to talk about, and it isn't already on here, then "'''[http://discoveryfl.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Chovynz&action=edit&section=new make a new section]'''".
--[[User:Chovynz|Chovynz]] 11:19, 19 May 2008 (GMT)
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I think that the turret on the Discovery Defender is class 2 instead of class 4, actually. But I'm not dure and I don't currently have the chance to check it.
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===Generator===
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I'm just waiting for input on three things for the ships page:
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# Is the name displayed over the image correct, or what should I change?
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# Do you approve of the added "Purchase Includes" section?
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# What page[s] should Gunboat and Cruiser forward turrets link to?</s>
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:Thanks! -[[User:Cshake|cshake]] 20:44, 1 October 2009 (MDT)
  
If you think that it's important and you don't think that it's viable to check the 5 Ship categories pages (fighters, freighters, transports, bombers, capital ships) - which are split by discovery/original freelancer already - then we could make a page for that. Might be a bit overkill, though.
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Found the reason the Osiris wasn't showing up in the generator, shiparch.ini is missing <i>linear_drag</i> for it, which should be forwarded to the Devs as a bug. I'm assuming it to be 1 now, since it is 1 for all other ships. The tool you requested is now ready to use as well. (All types of content generation can now be found at [http://www.cshake.homeip.net/flwiki/ http://www.cshake.homeip.net/flwiki/], I set up a selection redirect page there. If you could update the sidebar that would be cool.) -[[User:Cshake|cshake]] 23:11, 3 October 2009 (MDT)
  
[[User:Nodwick|Nodwick]] 11:32, 19 May 2008 (GMT)
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== Images to be replaced ==
  
==Template Format==
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For most of the ships there, the forum thread [http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=29702 HQ Smooth Renders] has a good .png version. Should we wait until .png support is available on the wiki, or maybe convert them to a 'standard' size .jpg with a 'standard' background color and updated the images?
'''''Saved for reference. Might be substituting. Depends on whether I can get the ship template working properly so that other people just put stuff in, instead of formulas. Use Edit'''''
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-[[User:Cshake|cshake]] 20:47, 1 October 2009 (MDT)
  
{ {Ship
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==Battlestar II==
|SellName=Crusader
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Page will need to get updated by you, since you know what you want to do exactly. "[[User:Skatepro0|Skatepro0]] 19:35, 3 October 2009 (MDT)"
|FullName=
 
|Description=Known as the "crown royale" of the heavy fighter class, the Crusader is the cornerstone of the military and civilian authorities of [[Bretonia]]. Used largly to enforce the will of the crown, this ship is designed at it's core to deliver as significant a beating as it is able to withstand. Thus, the Crusader is an optimal choice for its survivability and also its offensive capabilities.
 
|Class=Heavy Fighter
 
|ClassLink=Fighters#Heavy_Fighters_2
 
|Guns=6
 
|Turrets=0
 
|Armor=2600
 
|Cargo=35
 
|Batts=20
 
|Bots=20
 
|OptWep=3
 
|MaxWep=5
 
|MaxShield=
 
|Price=
 
|Level=
 
|Equip=[[Mines]], [[Countermeasures]], [[Cruise Disruptors]] / [[Torpedos]]
 
|PlaceSold=[[Battleship Norfolk]], [[Cambridge System]]
 
|WeaponSlot1=
 
|WeaponSlot2=
 
|WeaponSlot3=
 
|WeaponSlot4=
 
|WeaponSlot5=
 
|WeaponSlot6=
 
|WeaponSlot7=
 
|WeaponSlot8=
 
|WeaponSlot9=
 
  
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== New Mod Changes ==
  
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Ok, so it seems that with the new version, class 1 guns are now bomber torpedoes, while hp_torpedo_special_1 is still non-bomber torpedoes. We're gonna need a change of the ship template to accommodate different types of torps, and somehow indicate the difference in the CD/T section.
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-[[User:Cshake|cshake]] 21:38, 4 October 2009 (MDT)
  
== Minor edits ==
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===Specific questions:===
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# [[Class 1 Guns]] are now Bomber-specific torpedoes, and [[Torpedoes]] are now Fighter-specific. I think this warrants a change of name for both pages.
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# [[Class 6 Guns]] are still guns, but are bomber-specific. [[Class 6 Turrets]] are the turret counterparts now. I've added comments about these two changes on the [[Ship Equipment]] page. I don't think that these warrant a change of page name.
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# For my ship generator, I'm counting the number of hardpoints that can mount either type of torpedo, and putting that in the CD/T template line. The CD line, as before, is filled with the number of hardpoints that can only mount CDs. To distinguish between the cases, I added the torpedo mount point to the Hardpoints list in the page, with each saying what it can mount.
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# Because of item #1, I want to know what the links for those hardpoints should point to, if the page names are changing.
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# If we are going to change the names of the torpedo pages, I figure we might as well add a new page for Gunboat and Cruiser forward guns while we're at it. This would also mean changing the links in my generator, which is why I'm waiting on input from you before giving the go-ahead for using the generator.
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:-[[User:Cshake|cshake]] 17:54, 6 October 2009 (MDT)
  
Please only set the minor edit flag for your edits when they are indeed minor, for example if you just fixed a link, added a link without changing the text, fixed typos / spelling / grammar etc..
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==Unused Files==
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I was adding the delete template to some unused files when I though that it might have no use.
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I also removed 2 pictures from the picture that need to be replaced since they were not used.
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Those two pics were for the PTrans and the Kusari Train.
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Still, back to the unused files thing.
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My question is: Do you want me to continue adding the delete template to those I think really should be removed or you will do all the selection thing by yourself? "[[User:Skatepro0|Skatepro0]] 23:06, 8 October 2009 (MDT)"
  
If you add or delete something, please do not set the minor edit flag, that's misleading.
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== Weapon Pages ==
  
[[User:Nodwick|Nodwick]] 11:54, 19 May 2008 (GMT)
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I had some time this morning, so I decided to code the individual weapon pages generator. It's all working with the templates and everything except one large issue - [[:Template:Weapon main]] doesn't allow for tables in the sell location field. I'd really like to use the same format for buying locations as with commodities, etc, with the spoiler header and collapsible/searchable table. Is it possible in any way to make the template allow for tables, or what should I do? Thanks [[:User:Cshake|-cshake]] <sup>([[:User_Talk:Cshake|feedback]]|[[:Special:Contributions/Cshake|contribs]])</sup> 10:28, 9 October 2009 (MDT)
  
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== Your activity ==
  
:Thanks. I wasn't sure. I presume you're talking about the "Is anyone getting lag?" bit in ooRP?
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Morning. Out of sheer curiousity, will you be replacing the red text which says you are no longer here?[[User:Tumble-Weed|Tumble-Weed]]'' <sup>([[User talk: Tumble-Weed|ComLink]]([[Special:Contributions/Tumble-Weed|Holocron]])</sup> [[Image:Zoners.png|40px]] 01:19, 29 May 2010 (MDT)
:--[[User:Chovynz|Chovynz]] 11:58, 19 May 2008 (GMT)
 
 
 
::I meant the list of discovery ships, where you marked the remove on the new ships page as minor (>1200 characters difference, though).
 
::[[User:Nodwick|Nodwick]] 12:05, 19 May 2008 (GMT)
 
 
 
 
 
How do I change the titles of pages? For example:
 
*[[Class 4 weapons]] becomes
 
*[[Class 4 Weapons]]
 
[[User:Chovynz|Chovynz]] 13:55, 21 May 2008 (GMT)
 
 
 
==Pages going to be added==
 
'''Weapons'''
 
*[[Lavablade Mk I]]
 
*[[Lavablade Mk II]]
 
*[[Lavablade Mk III]]
 
 
 
*[[Justice Mk I]]
 
*[[Justice Mk II]]
 
*[[Justice Mk III]]
 
 
 
*[[BlueBell Turret]]
 
 
 
*[[Magma Hammer Mk II]]
 
 
 
*[[Wasp Cruise Disruptor]]
 
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'''Ships'''
 
*[[CSV]]
 
*[[Arrow]]
 
*[[Whale]]
 
*[[Luxury Liner]]
 
*[[Taiidan Bomber]]
 
*[[Liberty Assault Cruiser]]
 
*[[Advanced Train]]
 
*[[Arwing Light Fighter]]
 
*[[Barghest]] (Pirate Bomber)
 
*[[Border Worlds Transport]]
 
*[[Bounty Hunter Battlecruiser]]
 
*[[Bounty Hunter Bomber]]
 
*[[Bretonia Royal Liner]]
 
*[[Bumblebee]] (Kusari Transport)
 
*[[Challenger]] (Bretonia Bomber)
 
*[[Civilian Bomber]]
 
*[[Crusader]]
 
*[[Corsair Cruiser]]
 
*[[Corsair Dreadnought]]
 
*[[Dragon Battleship]]
 
*[[Dragon Bomber]]
 
*[[Dragon Cruiser]]
 
*[[Dragon Gunboat]]
 
*[[Falcata]] (Outcast Bomber)
 
*[[FireFly]]
 
*[[Galactic Miners Guild Miner]]
 
*[[Havoc Mk II Bomber]]
 
*[[Heavy Tanker]]
 
*[[Independent Mining Guild Gunboat]]
 
*[[Kusari Bomber]]
 
*[[Kusari Transport]]
 
*[[Lane Hacker Gunship]]
 
*[[Loki]] (Hessian Light Fighter)
 
*[[Mammoth]] (Liberty Transport)
 
*[[Nomad Light Fighter]]
 
*[[Nomad Very Heavy Fighter]] (limited access)
 
*[[Nomad Bomber]] (limited access)
 
*[[Odin]] (Hessian Heavy Fighter)
 
*[[Orca]] (Bounty Hunter Gunboat)
 
*[[Outcast Battleship]]
 
*[[Percheron]] (Bretonia Transport)
 
*[[Pirate Train]]
 
*[[Pirate Transport]]
 
*[[Praetorian]] (Corsair Bomber)
 
*[[Rogue Gunboat]]
 
*[[Scorpion Gunboat]]
 
*[[Thor]] (Hessian Bomber)
 
*[[Thor Mk II]] (admin ship)
 
*[[Viper Mk II]]
 
*[[Virage Very Heavy Fighter]]
 
*[[Waran]] (Border Worlds Bomber)
 
*[[Zoner Destroyer]]
 
 
 
 
 
Yay! I'm really looking forward to this, will make the Wiki much more valuable in my eyes. Will you make the CSV page in the formatting like the [[Defender]]?
 
 
 
While you're at it, maybe you can rework the [[Crusader]] and [[Rogue Gunboat]] pages? Those are in a different format and dead-end pages.
 
 
 
[[User:Nodwick|Nodwick]] 07:13, 21 May 2008 (GMT)
 
:[[Defender]] is the one to copy I take it? [[User:Chovynz|Chovynz]] 08:59, 21 May 2008 (GMT)
 
::Well, you can also take [[Liberty Gunboat]] if you want. But I suggest using the one that's closest to the CSV in terms of statistics - the Defender is closer than the Gunboat, that's for sure. [[User:Nodwick|Nodwick]] 09:50, 21 May 2008 (GMT)
 
 
 
==Things to keep as templates==
 
<pre>
 
==Description==
 
==Selling Locations==
 
 
 
[[Category: Commodities]]
 
</pre>
 

Latest revision as of 07:19, 29 May 2010

I am no longer working on this wiki in any specific capacity. Please direct all wiki admin messages to Blodo or to cshake I've left this here as an archive of potentially useful stuff. If you do want to contact me, then leave me a message, but no guarantees on when I'll answer it.
Here is a list of actively contributing Wiki editors that you might like to choose to direct your questions to:
Forum name Wiki Name Misc Specialist in
Blodo Blodo Talk,(Contribs) Wiki Admin. CSS. Template coding. Deleting pages. Wiki coding. Imagery.
CrUcIaL_MiStAkE Xxlightagentxx Talk,(Contribs) Systems
Trackpad.User Skatepro0 Talk,(Contribs) Systems,
Cshake Cshake Talk,(Contribs) Renders, HTML, PHP, learning CSS, Wiki admin)
Sovereign Sovereign Talk,(Contribs) General stuff
Ironwatsas Ironwatsas Talk,(Contribs) Womanising, Harris Disease, Tea Cups, Pretty much useless for wiki stuff. ;)
Nathrael Nathrael Talk,(Contribs) Advanced CSS, Templates
Kazinsal Kazinsal Talk,(Contribs) Quietly hiding in the background, this guy really knows his wiki stuff. Grab him! Put him to good use.
Tazuras Tazuras Talk,(Contribs) Process analyser. Basic Templates. Some CSS.
n00bl3t Tumble-Weed Talk,(Contribs) Some CSS, lots of wiki stuff. Good guy. Knows his stuff.
Eyvind Eyvind Talk,(Contribs) Lots of wiki stuff. Good guy. Knows his stuff.
Tsaryu Tsaryu Talk,(Contribs) Unknown. He seems to know lots of wiki.

Welcome to my Wiki talk page . Here you'll see conversations, discussions and various other guff. Feel free to leave comments or suggestions or replies! Complaints, concerns and friendly abuse are all welcome. Call me a Marshmellow and I'll stick pins in your sandals though.

If there is a specific topic you want to talk about, and it isn't already on here, then "make a new section".

Generator

I'm just waiting for input on three things for the ships page:

  1. Is the name displayed over the image correct, or what should I change?
  2. Do you approve of the added "Purchase Includes" section?
  3. What page[s] should Gunboat and Cruiser forward turrets link to?
Thanks! -cshake 20:44, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

Found the reason the Osiris wasn't showing up in the generator, shiparch.ini is missing linear_drag for it, which should be forwarded to the Devs as a bug. I'm assuming it to be 1 now, since it is 1 for all other ships. The tool you requested is now ready to use as well. (All types of content generation can now be found at http://www.cshake.homeip.net/flwiki/, I set up a selection redirect page there. If you could update the sidebar that would be cool.) -cshake 23:11, 3 October 2009 (MDT)

Images to be replaced

For most of the ships there, the forum thread HQ Smooth Renders has a good .png version. Should we wait until .png support is available on the wiki, or maybe convert them to a 'standard' size .jpg with a 'standard' background color and updated the images? -cshake 20:47, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

Battlestar II

Page will need to get updated by you, since you know what you want to do exactly. "Skatepro0 19:35, 3 October 2009 (MDT)"

New Mod Changes

Ok, so it seems that with the new version, class 1 guns are now bomber torpedoes, while hp_torpedo_special_1 is still non-bomber torpedoes. We're gonna need a change of the ship template to accommodate different types of torps, and somehow indicate the difference in the CD/T section. -cshake 21:38, 4 October 2009 (MDT)

Specific questions:

  1. Class 1 Guns are now Bomber-specific torpedoes, and Torpedoes are now Fighter-specific. I think this warrants a change of name for both pages.
  2. Class 6 Guns are still guns, but are bomber-specific. Class 6 Turrets are the turret counterparts now. I've added comments about these two changes on the Ship Equipment page. I don't think that these warrant a change of page name.
  3. For my ship generator, I'm counting the number of hardpoints that can mount either type of torpedo, and putting that in the CD/T template line. The CD line, as before, is filled with the number of hardpoints that can only mount CDs. To distinguish between the cases, I added the torpedo mount point to the Hardpoints list in the page, with each saying what it can mount.
  4. Because of item #1, I want to know what the links for those hardpoints should point to, if the page names are changing.
  5. If we are going to change the names of the torpedo pages, I figure we might as well add a new page for Gunboat and Cruiser forward guns while we're at it. This would also mean changing the links in my generator, which is why I'm waiting on input from you before giving the go-ahead for using the generator.
-cshake 17:54, 6 October 2009 (MDT)

Unused Files

I was adding the delete template to some unused files when I though that it might have no use. I also removed 2 pictures from the picture that need to be replaced since they were not used. Those two pics were for the PTrans and the Kusari Train. Still, back to the unused files thing. My question is: Do you want me to continue adding the delete template to those I think really should be removed or you will do all the selection thing by yourself? "Skatepro0 23:06, 8 October 2009 (MDT)"

Weapon Pages

I had some time this morning, so I decided to code the individual weapon pages generator. It's all working with the templates and everything except one large issue - Template:Weapon main doesn't allow for tables in the sell location field. I'd really like to use the same format for buying locations as with commodities, etc, with the spoiler header and collapsible/searchable table. Is it possible in any way to make the template allow for tables, or what should I do? Thanks -cshake (feedback|contribs) 10:28, 9 October 2009 (MDT)

Your activity

Morning. Out of sheer curiousity, will you be replacing the red text which says you are no longer here?Tumble-Weed (ComLink) (Holocron) Zoners.png 01:19, 29 May 2010 (MDT)