Discovery Gaming Community

pipsqueak walks in the door. Calm as usual.
"Hello Every one...". All seats were full so he stands in the corner of the room and clears his throat.
"I just read the holo recordings and our name just kept coming up. So... I just wanted to clarify a few things about Jupiter Guild. . First of all, please dont make it a JG issue.
Here are a few facts to keep the direction of this discussion where it should go
1. We (JG) are not Zoners, we are Zoner affilliated Mercs. This means...
a) If the council is purely a Zoner council(zoner ID required), JG does not wish to be a part of the voting process. (please allow only people that carry a Zoner ID).
b) If Zoner affiliates are allowed, then allow all zoner affiliates. Give them a time frame to prove themselves then Induct them.
What I am saying is by deciding the fate of AW, you will decide the fate of JG as well. We may have two different names but we both are theoritically as skewed from the Zoners as each other. Here is an Idea, allow affiliates only a half a vote."

"As for mercs taking unlawful Jobs...Madam Aurelia...here is my badge.", pipsqueak stepped up and respectfully puts the badge infront of Aurelia," It clearly states that as a merc I can work for any faction I want. In a way, mercs really are Zoners. They strive to maintain neutrality cause being neutral means more business. The diffference is that the mercs generally use more Brawn than Brains. JG would like to achieve a path some where in the middle of those two stances. And by carrying a merc ID, JG is trying to protect the pure Zoners from the repurcussions of JG's actions against other entities.. Hope this makes sense.
*MY ID - JGPIP700728*

As for the Zoner aspect, we have strived for neutrality all over Sirius, using means we'd rather not discuss here. Read our engagement rules on our page and see if they can be any more neutral. Here is a Neural link to our page. Post if you see any qualms with our stance against others as zoner mercs.
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7587
Pipsqueak steps back and stand in the same dark corner again as Aurelia examines the document.

*Defiler stands up to make his official votes*
Single Eared Dude I demand that you speak politely in the pressence
of our Council,There is no need for this outrage.

I live in Omicron Theta,Im a trader,shiping from Corfu to Cambride,and backwards.
Asgard Warriors shloud get extended contract.If there was not for them I wloudn't be
sitting here wright now.Omicron Theta needs protection,I saw a Liberty Carrier stationed
in thet and haveing multiple Zoner Pilots traped in his Cargo Hold,I felt sorry for them,because
I cloudn't do anything for them in my train as the Carrier didn't want money.AW is here to
protect and solve problems like this.I vote Yay.
*Defiler wipes his forehead*
And as of JG question,I will have to vote nay because i think they are of no value to the zoners.

*He sat down,looking calm*

' Wrote:*Defiler stands up to make his official votes*
Single Eared Dude I demand that you speak politely in the pressence
of our Council,There is no need for this outrage.

I live in Omicron Theta,Im a trader,shiping from Corfu to Cambride,and backwards.
Asgard Warriors shloud get extended contract.If there was not for them I wloudn't be
sitting here wright now.Omicron Theta needs protection,I saw a Liberty Carrier stationed
in thet and haveing multiple Zoner Pilots traped in his Cargo Hold,I felt sorry for them,because
I cloudn't do anything for them in my train as the Carrier didn't want money.AW is here to
protect and solve problems like this.I vote Yay.
*Defiler wipes his forehead*
And as of JG question,I will have to vote nay because i think they are of no value to the zoners.

*He sat down,looking calm*

Defiler, you need to pay attention to my post and my face. First of all, there was no disrespect to anyone (pay attention), and I have two ears (pay attention). I was asked to put my two cents in by the council leadership, while flying in space , and I did (ask TAZ and JINX). My ID was shown because my role as a merc was questioned earlier (again pay attention, to previous posts, actually I will do one better) Here is the actual record of what was said in the council.

Quote:Oct 10 2007, 12:24 PM Post #31
Dab
Konig von Malier
Group: Members
Posts: 5,732
Joined: 5-August 05
Member No.: 61
I feel the need to point out three distinct facts.
1.) Neither the Zoner, nor the Mercenary IDs allow you to engage lawfuls to my knowledge.
2. ) The AW already follow a set of rules that our ID states.
3.) The AW have not been mercenaries for months.
Whether you are Zoner Mercenaries or not, *****you cannot engage lawful forces, or aid pirates in their illegal activities, unless said activities are against a different group of pirates.***** And how about the facts that your JG was, until very recently, an organization using Police IFFs and using the ID of Mercenaries?

I am not here to be disrespected (One eared ?/ JG doesnt matter?). My problem is, after I reply nicely to an asked question, I hear from some one stating that I am disrespecting somebody and showing outrage. Dab has my utmost respect. I am sure its a pain to manage a group that size and out of control. Frankly, you dont want to hear from me, stop asking questions. It is that simple.BTW, I am replying nicely to you this time, next time you address me like that and it may not be that nice. To earn respect you have to show respect.

"There seems to be much confusion in the Council Chambers.

"Pipsqueak, I believe Brother Ripper was referring to the earlier statement of Brother Tommy, not yourself. I did not personally find anything malign in Brother Tommy's statement during the casting of his vote.

"If we could keep to the current motion at hand, please. The motion before the Council is regarding AW's Zoner affilliation, and not the Jupiter Guild. They will have their opportunity to speak once a motion is made regarding their status and voting rights with this Council.

"Brother Ripper, I must reiterate once again for those of you who do not seem to hear: I grant that AW has protected Omicron Theta from pirating in the past. Many traders owe their safe passage to the presence of AW's ships. That is not the issue here, nor the reason for my motion. The issue is that AW is seldom present to protect Omicron Theta, because they are off playing warmongers in half a dozen other systems.

"As to whether AW needs to keep a Zoner affilliation to continue protecting the Zoner bases in Theta; I think the vote before the Council will make that known. What I am attempting to make clear through this vote is that the TAZ, and Independent Zoners in general no longer see the AW as worthy of a Zoner affilliation; and in fact find their pecadillos throughout Sirius to be an embarrasment to Zoners and their philosophy of neutrality.

"Can we get on with the vote, please?"

*Mr. Chairman: Vote updated and carried forward for the convenience of the Members.*

Quote:"On the issue of whether the Asgard Warriors should be allowed to remain officially Zoner-affiliated, how do you all vote? Yay for their continued affiliation, Nay to sever ties.":

The Temporary Autonomous Zoners [TAZ], (Malaclypse, delegate.): Nay!
The Asgard Warriors [AW], (AW ID, Zoner IFF, Aurelia Silvan, Delegate.): Abstains.

Jinx, Persephone, and Silvermist (Jinx, delegate.): Nay.
Isaac Drake, (Drake.)
Octavius, (DarkOddity.): Nay.
Smiley_, (Salamander_Smiley.): Nay.
Leroy_Fenning, (Tannik Seldon.) Nay.
vendhyan, (Kindred.): Abstains.
Grayson Burrows, (Debian.)
Tommy, (Single Earred Dude.): Nay.
Defiler, (Ripper.): Yay.

Understood, I see my mistake. Still, diplomacy is the main weapon of zoners.
If pirates are bothering you, setup a deal with them. Hire Escorts.

[ooc: I am also curious how many voting "Zoners" are actually active AW players and how that effect their voting strategy...?]

Sorry,I wasn't paying enought attencion.As of this moment I will be leaving the Councli of Zoners,because of some trouble manifestating in my Familiy,but another representative will take my place if the Council agrees.His name is Patric Sinclare,and I will interduce him to the council as soon is possible.

((OOC:Pipboy im the only one that is in AW and has an independent zoner char,and Dab is a representative of AW in the council.The reson of this post is fallowing:I messed up my Defiler Char's reputation,and I decided to make a new one,Whit a Normal Name.))

My apologies if I sounded impolite.

Octavius enters the room.. Late due to extended periods of time spent in pleasure dens.

"If I may be so bold as to take the floor," Octavius said, "I have been monitoring this fiasco over mobile communications and was saving my response to this most recent outrage until now."

"I would like to make it very clear that my vote on the current vote for the status of the Asgard Warriors is a resounding NAY. They will receive no vote from me to continue their politics and warfare under the protection of Zoner neutrality." Octavius took a deep breath.

"No continued contract of any kind should be allowed. My reasons for this are simple, the Asgard Warriors are creating a hostile environment for Zoners everywhere, soiling our name as if it were a child's diaper."

"They can take their neutrality and treat it as if it were fecal matter, but they shall not take ours, not while I have any kind of say in the matter." Octavius finished, firmly but diplomatically.

"It has been brought to attention that the Asgards have, how should I put it... Policed theta quite thoroughly. However, they have clearly taken sides in this endless corsair and outcast feud. They are at open war with the Liberty house. And yes, this does hurt zoner relations. Relations with the corsairs are already strained. It would be no difficult matter to send things spiraling into chaos."

Sebastian paused to take a swig from his milk jug before continuing.

"As was stated before, freeport 9 is no longer free. It is a base of operations for the Asgards. It is a place that I try to avoid at all costs. It has become a warzone. The never ending clash between asgards and outcasts and the corsairs."

"I may put it in more polite terms than brother Octavius, but the essence remains. The Asgards are, to put it bluntly, a liability. If we continue to maintain ties with the Asgards, we will always be considered somewhat responsible for their actions."

"In all reality, the zoners do not need to be protected by the 'charity' of the Asgards. The zoners are often mistaken as a bowl of tapioca pudding, formless and docile, even when attacked. We are not tapioca pudding, rather, we are pudding with teeth. Zoners can manage zoner interests with out the *cough* 'assistance' of the asgards."

"I vote nay on the matter."