From: Pope David Fenderson
Source: [TAZ]St.Gulik, Pueblo Bonito, Baffin
Re: Bowex Lease Offer
My fellow Delegates, though I find that Bowex's proposal is reasonable, I've consulted my own Pineal on this issue, and I'm afraid that I still can't support this. When the Zoner movement first formed, we set out with the goal of getting away from the houses and their restrictive, destructive ways. Now, it seems that we're prepared to invite them on to our home planet with open arms. For what? A few credits? Is that all we believe our freedom is worth now?
Instead of welcoming these outsiders, I feel we should take the opposite course, and not allow anyone who is not a Zoner to set foot on our home and refuge.
Hail Eris! -><- καλλιστι -><- All Hail Discordia!
Comm ID: Peter Kristall
Approved as written. Also approved the other Mal as treasurer.
Now if you'll excuse me, I seem to have lost the keys to my ship...
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Comm ID: [TAZ]Doc Holliday
Subject: Bowex Proposal
I do have reservations about this proposal but I do see some re-assurance. I do like clause 3 in where the Bretonian Crown, at least in writing, won't try expanding itself upon our home world. I don't like the idea that the Crown has "legal ownership" of a piece of our home world while these refugees are settled. I kind of see it as an opening or even a loophole for Bretonian influence upon Canaria. As I said once before, one can use alternative means to gain expansion of territory outside of it's military. In this case, with "Bretonian ownership" of a small piece of Canaria, one can do it over the next ten years by flooding it full of refugees who might then uprise and because Bretonia re-settled them, they would want the Crown as a government.
In the short term, this proposal isn't bad. It's the long term aspects that I have an issue with as Erie and Planet Nourembourge in Munich are taking on refugees and doing a fine job in re-settling them. Before I make a decision on this, I do think our legal console needs to check this out.
On the payment front, should this proposal go through, I support Mr. Reynolds being the treasurer. What to do with these funds? We definitely could use some defensive improvements on our Freeports in Delta and Omega 3 and quite possibly funding some bombers for defense.
-Doc
Comm ID: [TAZ]Apostle.Zarathud
Subject: Bowex Proposal
Dear fellow delegate Pope Fenderson, I can truely understand your plight, but your proposal to bring perfect Zoner Order could create a greater Discordic imbalance to us all, what is a colony really going to harm ? In the greater picture of things we have and share space in many "others' systems. Consider it a Bretonion freeport of sorts rather then an invasion of an Zoner Homeworld.
On that note, I approve the proposal and the movement for Mr. Reynolds as treasurer of said funds.
There are no rules anywhere.
The Goddess Prevails.
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Com ID: Reisiger Duke
Upon taking some time to think about the proposal as is, I think there are a few issues that need ironing out first:
Quote:1. The Port Jackson settlement, and it's surrounding area shall be leased from the Council of Zoners (hereafter referred to as the Council) for a period of not less than 10 (ten) years, during which time it shall be legal property the Bretonian Crown, under the administration of Borderworld Exports (hereafter referred to as Bowex).
As with my proposal prior to the negotiations, I strongly object to have any foreign law on Zoner ground. Gran Canaria is a Zoner planet, and as with all the other planets taking in refugees, they should be guests in our own refugee camp, enjoying Zoner hospitality and being subject to our law.
Quote:2. Throughout the duration of the aforementioned lease, Bowex transport vessels, and their escorts, shall be permitted passage through the Omega-49 system for the purpose of carrying refugees and necessary supplies (excluding heavy weapons) to the Port Jackson settlement, and that Bowex shall be permitted to defend said transports in the event that they come under hostile action.
What I am missing here is any kind of regulation on the size of the camp and the influx of refugees... how many will be "resettled" onto "bretonian soil" in those 10 years? What if we end up with i.e. a billion refugees compared to our 700 million Zoner inhabitants?
Quote:3. The United Kingdom of Bretonia shall not call into dispute the Council's sovereignty over either the Omega-49 system or Planet Gran Canaria, so long as either remains under Zoner control, nor will vessels of the Royal Bretonian Armed Forces enter the Omega-49 system without the express approval of the Council. This provision shall remain active beyond the period of the lease agreement.
Although this article sounds nice, it has an odd ring to it... "so long as either remains under Zoner control"... I'd rather have that reworded into "as it is a Zoner planet". Otherwise even a temporal loss of "control" - be it for whatever plausible or implausible reason - would cause the whole issue to repeat itself.
Quote:4. Bowex shall initially pay a sum of 100 million Sirius Standard Credits to the Council, and pay a sum of 30 million Sirius Standard Credits on a bi-weekly basis as payment for use of the aforementioned parcel of land.
As mentioned before, I won't mind Bowex to support the refugees they resettle, as long as it is a Zoner run institution.
Quote:5. The above agreement (with the exception of Clause 3) will be subject to renegotiation and renewal in no less than 10 (ten) years from the date it becomes active.
I suggest an addendum to this article to allow the council to prematurely end the lease (with the exception of Clause 3) should we detect gross misconduct. Should the camp be run be Bowex, we'd of course should be able to send observers without the need to announce their arrival.
As it stands now, I am unable to support the contract as is and will vote against it due to the following reasons:
- Article 1: Any camp would have to be subject to Zoner law. Neither Erie nor Nourembourge have britonian "enclaves".
- Article 2: There needs to be a way for us to regulate the influx of refugees and the size of the camp.
- Article 3: "..., so long as either remains under Zoner control, ..." needs to be reworded into: ", as the planet belongs to the Zoners, "
- Article 5: We need to be able to prematurely end the lease should we observe Bowex using any loophole in the contract.
Kind Regards
Reisiger Duke
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Message to : CoZ
Comm ID: Johann Boll
Location: Freeport 15
Subject: BowEx
Fellow delegates,
i only can fully agree with Mr.Duke. He perfectly expressed my opinion on the BowEx proposal. But honestly i still have concerns about their general intentions. For me it feels like a poor attempt to fool us and now i am more cautious than before.
Best regards,
Johann Boll
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[Comm ID: Coriko Lameos]
*Sigh* More bloody paperwork eh? As if I don't get enough of this already. Anyhow, due to its relative importance for a vast number of us me and my legal advisors have thrashed through this. Currently it is in need of alterations due to several discrepancies in addition to those already mentioned. Allow me to elaborate:
Quote:1. The Port Jackson settlement, and it's surrounding area shall be leased from the Council of Zoners (hereafter referred to as the Council) for a period of not less than 10 (ten) years, during which time it shall be legal property the Bretonian Crown, under the administration of Borderworld Exports (hereafter referred to as Bowex).
There's no clarification or details about this so called 'surrounding area'. How big is it? The whole planet perhaps?
Quote:2. Throughout the duration of the aforementioned lease, Bowex transport vessels, and their escorts, shall be permitted passage through the Omega-49 system for the purpose of carrying refugees and necessary supplies (excluding heavy weapons) to the Port Jackson settlement, and that Bowex shall be permitted to defend said transports in the event that they come under hostile action.
Escorts consisting of what, limited to how many? I'm sure we don't want hundreds of capital ships traipsing through Omega 49 claiming to be 'legal escorts'
Quote:3. The United Kingdom of Bretonia shall not call into dispute the Council's sovereignty over either the Omega-49 system or Planet Gran Canaria, so long as either remains under Zoner control, nor will vessels of the Royal Bretonian Armed Forces enter the Omega-49 system without the express approval of the Council. This provision shall remain active beyond the period of the lease agreement.
This clause I most certainly would agree with,
however, I believe in the Sirius Astronomical Union's records our planet has now been legally, and wrongfully, named 'Sydney' now yes? Whilst it was discussed and agreed in our concil's meeting with Mr Burke that Bowex would allow us to correct this to it's rightful name of Gran Canaria should we accept their proposal, this contract makes no note as such. Therefore, in the Bretonian 'laws' eyes, the planet is still named Sydney and this contract is void by the usage of it's proper name.
Thus it is necessary a clause be added allowing the 'legal' "renaming" of the planet, and placed first and foremost, so that the confusions later on are already dealt with. After all, a location needs to be named and located, before a contract describes clauses about a place which, in the records, does not exist.
Without apt revisions I must declare myself against this proposal.
**Incoming Transmission**
To: The Council of Zoners
From: Samuel Nichols - CEO Omicron Supply Industries
Message reads:
OK lets look at what Bowex has tried to hit us with.
Quote:1. The Port Jackson settlement, and it's surrounding area shall be leased from the Council of Zoners (hereafter referred to as the Council) for a period of not less than 10 (ten) years, during which time it shall be legal property the Bretonian Crown, under the administration of Borderworld Exports (hereafter referred to as Bowex).
We need a definition of how big this parcel is and I dissagree that is should be completly undr the administration of Bowex. It's still a Zoner planet, not a Bretonian one.
Quote:2. Throughout the duration of the aforementioned lease, Bowex transport vessels, and their escorts, shall be permitted passage through the Omega-49 system for the purpose of carrying refugees and necessary supplies (excluding heavy weapons) to the Port Jackson settlement, and that Bowex shall be permitted to defend said transports in the event that they come under hostile action.
Again, definition of escorts, I think we need a no capital ship clause here. They should be using nothing bigger then a very heavy fighter
Quote:3. The United Kingdom of Bretonia shall not call into dispute the Council's sovereignty over either the Omega-49 system or Planet Gran Canaria, so long as either remains under Zoner control, nor will vessels of the Royal Bretonian Armed Forces enter the Omega-49 system without the express approval of the Council. This provision shall remain active beyond the period of the lease agreement.
Fine then reregister "Sydney" as Gran Canaria in the offical registry and note it as a Zoner controlled planet.
That little bit about not disputing our sovereignty, while we are in control of the system. Does this leave the door for a hostile take over.
Quote:4. Bowex shall initially pay a sum of 100 million Sirius Standard Credits to the Council, and pay a sum of 30 million Sirius Standard Credits on a bi-weekly basis as payment for use of the aforementioned parcel of land.
No problems with this part
Quote:5. The above agreement (with the exception of Clause 3) will be subject to renegotiation and renewal in no less than 10 (ten) years from the date it becomes active.
Fine here also
There are still too many potential loop holes in this and too man ambiguities. We need set deinfitions and standards. Kick it back with revisions. Give them 80 square kilometers for their lease and limit them to nothing bigger then a bomber as escorts. Since they are the one who "registered" the planet, they need to be the one to issue the changes to the Sirius planet registry. And while Bowex can administer the colony, Zoner laws are still paramount on Gran Canaria.
Samuel Nichols
CEO - OSI
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Comm ID: John Bess
Ahoy fellow Delegates,
I have to agreed with fellow Pope David Fenderson and i do not want to support this.
I got a bad feeling about this and i fear this is the first step to conquer the southern borderworlds.
By the way, did anyone contacted the IMG and had a chat with them about this?
I prefer hard working miners who also like to be independent than some greedy and slimy merchants.
My humble opinion about that.
Bess out.
Comm ID: Comerciante
To: CoZ
Hello fellow Delegates,
I completely agree with Delegate Fenderson and Delegate Bess, so I will not support this.
Gran Canaria is a Zoner Planet, not Bretonian.
Best regards.
Cordova out.