I have to agree with Mr. Ironfoot here and say that the more freedom ZRT has, the better.
In a nutshell, the ZRT is our emergency "911" militia -- whatever shape or form it may take. If a ZRT pilot wants to carry a Zoner ID instead of a Zoner Guard ID, that should be fine. If a ZRT captain wants to pilot a Juggernaght, however obscure that may seem, he/she should do this.
Regards,
Yev Lightwing, Zoner Guard.
Com ID. Reisiger Duke
To: Council of Zoners
Subject: Zoner Policies
' Wrote:COMM ID: William Ironfoot
To: Council of Zoners
Subject: Zoner Policies
Members of the council, I applaud the work that has gone into creating this new look document and can agree with most of its content however one section troubles me a little from a personal level:
I have a Corvo exploration cruiser that has been used many times to defend freeports and Gran Canaria against attacks from Keepers and QCP aswell as being used to interdict between the squabbles of other factions around our bases, I hope this doesn't mean that I will no longer be able to take part actively in the ZRT.
Also my impression was that the tag "ZRT" was optional, is this now a requirement?
' Wrote:I have to agree with Mr. Ironfoot here and say that the more freedom ZRT has, the better.
In a nutshell, the ZRT is our emergency "911" militia -- whatever shape or form it may take. If a ZRT pilot wants to carry a Zoner ID instead of a Zoner Guard ID, that should be fine. If a ZRT captain wants to pilot a Juggernaght, however obscure that may seem, he/she should do this.
Regards,
Yev Lightwing, Zoner Guard.
Both concerns about restricting ships are unnecessary, as the wording of Sections IV shows...
Quote:Section IV - Zoner Response Team
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2. Ships dedicated to the ZRT have the appendix (ZRT) added to their transponder ID ( <ship-name>(ZRT) ) and use the Zoner Guard ID and IFF, unless they belong to a Zoner faction which ratified the Official Zoner Policies.
3. Only vessels under the command of a member of the Council of Zoners may assume ZRT duties and draft Zoner volunteers not on the Council to help.
4. Due to their civilian nature, the following ship classes are not allowed to be used for dedicated ZRT duty, but may be drafted for defensive purposes only:- "Corvo" Class Zoner Deep Space Explorer
- Zoner "Jinkusu" Class Juggernaut
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... that any vessel may partake in defensive NFZ duties. This means that any such vessel can be used to guard a NFZ or escort a convoy, but nothing more. Both were vessels designed and built with civilian interests in mind, and thus they are neither optimised for battle nor is branding them as vessels of war doing a favour to all those ships of those classes that avoid combat in favour to protect the families onboard.
It seems that the second paragraph causes some misunderstandings:
"Ships dedicated to the ZRT have the appendix (ZRT)..."
For the sake of clarity, I'll henceforth will distinguish in the rest of my discussion between- Dedicated ZRT vessels - <name>(ZRT)
- CoZ Zoner Faction vessels - i.e. [TAZ]<name...>, (]c[)<name...>, OSI-<name...>, etc.
- Independent vessels of members of the Council of Zoners
Now the reasons for distinguishing between the three are the following: ...- Dedicated ZRT vessels: ...
- Show that they are members of the Council of Zoners and follow it's policies
- Enforce the CoZ Official Zoner Policies - be it to guard a NFZ area, hunt down an individual that was declared hostile to Zoners or escort a convoy on official CoZ business
- Won't interfere with anyone else's business unless that business falls under the CoZ Official Zoner Policies
- The reason for dedicated vessels to use the Zoner Guard ID and IFF is simple: It shows them to be piloted by those who have the best for Zoner Society in mind.
- CoZ Zoner Faction vessels:
- Enforce the NFZ and escort their own and CoZ convoys while being known to partake by large in the CoZ and thus follows it's policies
- They often have a specific ZoI in which they operate
- All have their own set of diplomatic relations they need to observe
- Officially recognized Zoner Factions have to abide to a given naming scheme
- Independent vessels of members of the Council of Zoners
- Few of those vessels give an indication by their transponder ID to belong to the CoZ and thus would be allowed to make use of the rights granted by our policies.
- Many will be treated by others as "yet another indy Zoner trader/explorer/etc. 'whining about' when trying to Enforce a NFZ or stating towards others that they are indeed the escort of a CoZ convoy.
Given all this, I consider it to be beneficial but by no means mandatory, if we would have dedicated vessels that show their flag to others and would be available for enforcing the Zoner Policies outside of NFZs.
I know the current wording needs some refining to properly reflect this.
Kind Regards
Reisiger Duke
Comm ID: RFS Freedom
Brothers and Sisters,
Salaam Alaikum. We are gladdened to see that the regulations are being hashed out in a peaceful and democratic fashion, following the spirit of our people.
We, however, will continue to operate our vessel without a "ZRT" tag, as per the regulations, and perhaps contrary to the regulations, will continue to use our Juggernaut to actively hunt down and destroy those who attack our people (inshallah), through the unanimous consent of all voting members of our crew, including all heads of household, in addition to the usual defensive actions we have taken in the past.
But so long as the spirit of the Council of Zoners is maintained- that is, that it does not create any laws that force any Zoners to bend to its will against their own, we will support this measure as a set of guidelines for general use.
-Jonah Robinson and Crew
greetings zoners this is aayla cruz captain of the Destiny Ascension.
i dont know how everyone else feels about this but i fear the OPG raids on the zoner transports have been going on for too long now. something must be done either a peacefull solution will be made or more drastic solutions. from this day on i will be ready to standby in omega-41 where most of these raids happen in order to ensure the safety of the zoner transports. i will no longer stand idly by as zoner transports get taxed, the zoners need this route through omega-41 clear in order to be able to resupply freeports in theta and delta. the OPG is going to far with their pirating with no carering on who they pirate.
aayla cruz out!.
Dear Aayla Cruz,
I am not aware how you managed to hack into the Council's private channel, but if you wish to participate here legaly you need to register at this channel:
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=27326
If you wish to join our community you must do one very important thing, and that is to use proper punctuation and capitalization. We will not accept you into the Council if you cannot maintain this basic rule of grammer.
Sincerely,
Yev Lightwing, Zoner Guard.
**Incoming Transmission**
**Comm ID: Captain Trogdor**
Unfortunately, Mr. Lightwing, Mal is the one who managed the Zoner Delegate registry and he's on vacation for a few more days. (I'm unaware if or to what extent Mr. Holliday is managing it now.) So in light of this, let's address Captain Cruz's issues, rather than his or her communication.
Captain Cruz, our relations with the Corsairs and many other pirates is a delicate one. We have many stations that share space with them. They are normally welcome to visit our stations as they wish, and in return for this service they're supposed to leave us alone. We are well aware that this is not always the case.
However, the Corsairs are, from my experience, a particularly proud and offendable people. Whenever we try to take issues up with their council or Elders, frankly it turns into a bit of a mess with a lot of grandstanding.
It's much easier to deal with individual pirates who repeatedly make themselves a pain in our collective behinds. Depending on the severity of what they've done we can either deny them access to our bases (which is a more corrective measure) or in some cases declare those particular pirates as KOS. We have a separate, public channel for such records.
I would implore our delegates to keep an eye on the issue and see whose name keeps coming up on the scanners.
**Transmission ends**
Comm ID: [TAZ]Doc Holliday
To: Captain Trogdor
If it helps, I now maintain the delegate roster.
-Doc
I've received an updated transcript of the QCP - CoZ negotiations.
Regarding the issue of Corsair settlements, it seems that Ambassador Doc Holliday did not bring up a point I addressed a few days ago, which is the fundamental difference between Port Jackson and the Corsair settlements, that difference being:
Port Jackson belongs to Bowex. The Corsair settlements belong to Zoners.
As for Edward Hawkins' later statement:
Quote: Therefor I ask this: What does the CoZ offer for the sake of this treaty?
The ability to hunt Corsairs in O-49 without being molested by Zoners, Order, and GMG.
The question I have now is -- What does the QCP have to offer to CoZ?
The bottom line that Mr.Hawkins needs to realize is that we are not negotiating anything more than cease-fire here. Our aim is not to trade anything. It's not to make payments or to evict anyone. We want to halt hostilities because there is no sense for them to exist in the first place.
If QCP hunt Zoners, they gain nothing. QCP can kill 1000 Zoners and it won't stop a single Corsair from landing on Gran Canaria. It'll just make Zoners hate QCP more and more. Then what? An all out war between the two groups? Zoners are everywhere, Bretonia included. Do QCP want to be fighting off Zoners while they hunt Kusari and Corsairs? Bretonia supports QCP behind the curtain, no doubt, but they won't come to QCP's rescue everytime Zoners enter Bretonia. Here is my suggestion for what QCP needs to understand:
IF this cease-fire treaty is not passed, hostilities between our groups will escalate. More Zoners visit Bretonia than Kusari and Corsairs combined. QCP will be fighting Zoners during every encounter. Eventually we will become their primary aggressor -- and why? Because we allow Corsairs to land on our bases the same way the Junkers do in New London?
We have absolutely nothing to lose by continuing hostilities. Zoners outnumber the QCP 100 to 1, not to mention that the Order and GMG will block QCP's entry into O-49. No doubt Bretonia needs QCP to hunt Corsairs and Kusari folk, but to what extent will it support the Privateers when they start fighting with all the Zoners in Bretonia?
Sincerely,
Yev Lightwing, Zoner Guard
Comm ID: RFS Freedom
Thank you for your statement, Mr. Lightwing. You have confirmed with words what we already felt was true in our hearts. We have nothing to fear from them, and it is rather amusing that they would expect us to bend over backwards for them when they have bigger problems to ponder.
While we feel tempted to interject into the negotiations and give the Privateers a good talking to, we trust that Mr. Holliday will continue to represent our interests effectively, as he has done up to this point.
Allahu Akhbar.
-Jonah Robinson and Crew
**Incoming Transmission**
**Comm ID: Captain Trogdor**
Mr. Lightwing, I must caution you on two points. Three, really.
One, though we outnumber the QCP, they are a military operation while much of the '100:1' of us you describe are tradeships. Therefore, we do have something to lose here, and that is the prospect of increased hostilities towards our traders, who are effectively civilians and didn't sign up to fight.
Two, despite the fact that we have extensive resources, those resources are spread thin over the entirety of Sirius space. And we have enough problems with general hooliganry as it is. Diverting security assets to deal with a fight in Bretonia would open gaps for other problems to boil up elsewhere.
Three, I would encourage you to mind your tone, you sound as if you're looking for a fight. I know from experience that issues that come before this council fall to one side of a very thin line between what's acceptable to get up in arms about and what is not. If you say something that is on the opposite side of that line, other delegates start to give you the evil-eye. To me, this is leaning towards the side of 'let diplomacy deal with it'.
But we'll see.
**Transmission ends**